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Vehicles of the PLA: Now with refreshing new topic title!
barbaria replied to Khand-e's topic in Mechanized Warfare
It does come with its own drawbacks though IMO. What about the repearability after penetration of the ammo compartment? Wouldn't an internal ammo cook-off destroy the turret beyond any cost-effective repair, seeing how the turret contains all the sensitive and expensive parts. Of course for this to happen the APS needs to run out of interceptors or malfunction. So I guess the chance of the aforementioned problems to play out seems very slim though. IMO, there seems to be a clear cut-off for when at least an autoloader and a subsequent unmanned turret is a necessity in a tank and that is when the shells are becoming too heavy for a human loader to handle. I think this is what we are going to see when we go beyond the 120/125mm caliber, both for the western and eastern tank designs. Anything less than that is manageable by a human loader and thus an autoloader and a subsequent unmanned turret is not necessary IMO. -
https://twitter.com/MON_GOV_PL/status/1395992622347530240?s=20 Poland is buying 24 TB2's in 4 batches of 6, with associated munitions. Deliveries starting next year.
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Nice! The 54th carrier for the OMTAS missile carrier is in production for a total of 184 OMTAS/Kornet tracked carriers, with an additional 76 wheeled OMTAS/Kornet carriers in production, for a total of 260 tank destroyers produced by 2022. Edit: It seems the total number has been increased to 344 https://www.defenceturk.net/kara-kuvvetleri-komutanligi-113-adet-silah-tasiyici-arac-teslim-aldi
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Some milestones have been reached in the developments of the 1000HP and 1500HP powerpacks: https://www.bmcpower.com.tr/tr/sayfa/22/cozumlerimiz
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Akinci UCAV ammunition test flight, dropping three different version of the MAM family: MAM-C, MAM-L and the new and bigger MAM-T with a range 30+km from UCAV's to 80+ km for fighter jets.
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Vehicles of the PLA: Now with refreshing new topic title!
barbaria replied to Khand-e's topic in Mechanized Warfare
I remember when I got personally attacked a couple years ago for stating that the majority of the Chinese IFV's were lacking thermals. A lot has changed on this forum since then.. -
General artillery, SPGs, MLRS and long range ATGMs thread.
barbaria replied to LoooSeR's topic in Mechanized Warfare
Nice display of hospital bombing you got there. Only in Russia I guess...- 1,905 replies
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The target was hit at roughly 11-12 km altitude at roughly 40km range. The missile wasn't equipped with a live warhead (blue band on missile canister) and thus no explosion, but it did directly hit the target. Again we can see the second pulse of the booster kicking in at 00:50. Both the A+ and O+ versions come with two way datalink and capability to switch targets during flight. Both of the systems are capable of guiding 12 missile to 6 targets at the same time. The O+ variant will also have an active radar guided variant in the future. For now the Hisars have IIR guidance with the A+ variant having a stubby nose and the O+ and pointed nosecap to protect the missile seeker against heat and will only discard of the cap during later stages of the flight. Rumored 15 A+ batteries and 30 O+ batteries are going to be purchased. This amount is enough to cover the entire Turkish ground forces with a divisional air defense capability under O+ umbrella with the A+ variant providing independent brigades with brigade level air defense. (30 O+ batteries=30 divisions=10 army corpse=3 armies with one corps (3 divisions) redundant. 15 A+ batteries provide independent brigades with brigade level air defense.) In the future the Siper(120km) is going to provide for the corps level air defense. The Sungur(6km) manpads provides company level air defense and perhaps even on the battalion level.
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Ejder Yalcin (Gidran) fitted with RCWS, gunshot detection system, all-round camera's and (smoke) grenade launchers.
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The armor coverage on the gunners and commmanders side is even worse than previously thought...
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Losses in manpower are not documented in Oryx's count. Solely material losses. The nature for the skewed losses in material is caused by a number of factors of which IMO are: Whether one is attacking vs defending, the terrain, the amount of defensive positions, artillery support, logistical support and above all the technological disparity between the two sides. This conflict was quite different to that of Ukraine or any conventional mechanized clash between (near)peers. The Azeri's had overwhelming technological superiority in the form of tactical UCAV's, kamikaze drones and NLOS guided weapons. These weapons gave the Azeri's the ability to destroy and damage equipment behind the front line accurately and effectively, something which the Armenians completely lacked. Ergo, even though arty was used by both sides, the Azeri's had a vastly greater capability and tools (UCAV's, drones NLOS weapons) to deal damage to the enemy than vice versa. It wasn't as if the Armenians had the same capabilities but they somehow forgot to record their strikes. I can't give you numbers or sources or anything but what ever losses where sustained on the Azeri side have been well documented either during the war or after with Azeri service members often showcasing their own destroyed equipment and sometimes with commentary as how the equipment was lost. I have seen no indications that the Azeri material losses where somehow massively covered up.
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Not that I know of. But looking at the development time that is contracted for the 900-1000hp (UTKU) engine until ready for serial production the 1500hp could have a comparable development time (68 months) of which 36 months still remain. https://www.defenceturkey.com/en/content/bmc-received-contract-for-series-production-of-altay-mbt-and-its-power-pack-3130 But in a very recent interview, the director of the company tasked to develop these engines (BMC Power) stated that in a wartime scenario they could skip the whole testing and integration phase and put the powerpack immediately to work in the Altay. It is in Turkish so you'll have to excuse me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vAMg1lvm_E
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Lots of AFV development coming out of Turkey. Apart from the vehicles themselves, they are also focusing on powerpacks with various power outputs. 380hp, 600hp diesel engines are fielded or ready to be used. 360hp, 450hp, 530hp, 630hp and 1000hp engines all from different companies (BMC and Tumosan) are currently being tested with the 1500hp engine going to be ignited for the first time in coming April/May. If they succeed in achieving all of this, the tank engine market will get another competitor with less stringent user requirements which will make the few companies in this sector at the very least nervous, and at the most force them out of business. *cough... cough.... MTU cough..cough..
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Thought I would post the link to Oryx's blog: https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2020/09/the-fight-for-nagorno-karabakh.html Total loss ratio Armenia vs Azerbaijan according to visually confirmed sources: 8,5-1 A decisive victory for Azerbaijan. This war has shown the importance of air power, both defensively and offensively.
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General artillery, SPGs, MLRS and long range ATGMs thread.
barbaria replied to LoooSeR's topic in Mechanized Warfare
Ground launched Tomahawk happened. https://www.dvidshub.net/video/703577/dod-conducts-ground-launched-cruise-missile-test edit: bigger picture So the Russians were right when they complained about the land aegis system capability to launch land attack cruise missiles. Great... what a world we live in- 1,905 replies
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The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines
barbaria replied to T___A's topic in Mechanized Warfare
I saw that track-throwing on the livestream. Whereas the rest of the tanks reaches 65-67 km/h and the Chinese one 71 km/h, the Russian T-72B3 reaches an astonishing 77 km/h!! After closer examination of that tank I conclude that the Russians are cheating again. IMO, they took a T-72B3M with the more powerful engine (1130hp) and took of the commander's independent sight to mask the tank as an ordinary T-72B3. You can see the covered hole of the commanders sight on the Russian tanks but not on the other participants tanks.- 5,208 replies
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- the object 167t engine was better
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Vehicles of the PLA: Now with refreshing new topic title!
barbaria replied to Khand-e's topic in Mechanized Warfare
That running gear looks quite flimsy for such a big IFV. When it drove of the ramp with low speed, the front sprockets hit the ground. I wouldn't want to imagine what would happen at higher speeds. This amphibious race will either be very fun or very boring to watch... -
Main Ground Combat System (MGCS) and Euro Main Battle Tank (EMBT)
barbaria replied to FORMATOSE's topic in Mechanized Warfare
Come on guys, this LEOCLERCtm is obviously just to show the world that Germans and French can indeed cooperate on tank design, how small and lack of innovation of this LEOCLERCtm is. Let us see what they have in store in a couple years, granted that the cooperation lasts...- 390 replies
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Pls post whatever you have on the VT4
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A true treasure that has been found. Finally some official figures about armor values.
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I would rather sit in an Abrams being a couple tonnes heavier and a top speed of a few km/h slower, than in a leopard 2
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