Rohrkrepierer

@Pardus, I'm currently trying to get in contact with one of the authors of the paper to see if he can help me with a couple of things. Including this, and possible further information on DM23.

Hey guys. 

Does anyone have any primary sources that reference the perforation performance of German 120mm DM23 APFSDS-T ammunition? 

Best regards, 

Rohrkrepierer o7

54 minutes ago, SH_MM said:

The DM23's tungsten penetrator has a 32 mm diameter and a total length of 360 mm compared to the 120 mm DM13 with 26 mm diameter and 315 mm effective penetrator length. Given its velocity it really won't penetrate much armor, probably something about 400-440 mm against 60° sloped steel plates at 2 kilometres distance.

Do you have the source for that? I have the dimensions myself too, just not the sources for them.

35 minutes ago, Pardus said:

 

Is it this?

It includes it, but I have much more than that.

12 hours ago, Pardus said:

 

Ok, would you be able to share it?

Yes, via PM.

Looking for sources on German DM23 ammunition, and the Swiss license produced version of it called "Pfeil Pat 87 Lsp", particularly the dimensioning and weight.
If anyone has any info, please let me know.

1 minute ago, SH_MM said:

No primary sources, but it is not going to be very much.

At this point I'd take anything to be honest. I have a russian book that mentions DM23 in a table (It's the one that's on Google pictures), and a snipet of the Polish ministry of defense report that mentions DM23 too, but that one sadly doesn't list the penetration in a table, only in a graph which is not useable in my case.

On 5/5/2016 at 9:59 PM, Militarysta said:

120mm L-44 Leo-2:

DM13 (1979) - 440mm RHA
DM23 (1985) - 480mm RHA

May I ask what the source for that is?

22 hours ago, Pardus said:

Infact AFAIK the true penetration performance of the DM13 and DM23 (let alone DM33, 43 and 53/63) is still not known.

Well I got a hold of a Polish ministry of defence research paper that test fired DM33, which came out with 470mm of LOS pen @2km.

16 hours ago, Lord_James said:

Welcome to SH, Rohr  

Thank you. Heard a lot of good about SH.

Hey guys. 

Does anyone have any primary sources that reference the perforation performance of German 120mm DM23 APFSDS-T ammunition? 

Best regards, 

Rohrkrepierer o7