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  1. Tank You
    Byakuya Ai reacted to Monochromelody in Tank “document” misleading   
    各位最近可能在WT论坛上见过这张图片,在一些争论陆上自卫队90式战车的讨论串里:
    Some of you may have seen this pic recently on WT forum, in some thread arguing the protection of JGSDF Type 90: 
    Discussion on WT forum
     

     
    我就直说吧,表格里的中文注解说了,这不过是个“猜想”,GUESSING。
    To be straight, the Chinese annotation in the table said it is just a GUESSING.
    注解内容可能完全是编造的,但不幸的是,不同语言间的障碍使你们无法看穿这点。
    This annotation could be totally nonsense but unfortunately a barrier between languages prevent you guys see throught it. 
     
    实际上,这又是一份关于陆上自卫队10式战车的文件,说的并不是90式。
    In fact, again, this document itself is about JGSDF Type 10 MBT, not Type 90.
    同样的花招,不一样的人,是吧?
    Same trick, different people, huh?

    ↑陆上自卫队的10式战车规格书
    JGSDF specification handbook of Type 10 MBT

    ↑59页,附录B,性能(规定)以及诸元
    page 59, Appendix B, performance (regulations) and data
     
    下面简要说说这些性能规定如何编写、如何加密。
    Let's talk about these regulations and how they were made and encrypted. 
     
    大家可能知道日语中有平假名和片假名,和拉丁语中的字母还有大写字母是差不多的。
    You may know that Japanese have Hirakana and Katakana, like Latin have letters and capital letters. 
     
    正如图中所示,一些最关键的数值和描述用平假名、片假名、罗马字(拉丁字母)隐去了。
    As you can see, some of the most crucial numbers and descriptions are covered by a Hirakana or Katakana or Romaji(Latin letters).
     
    这些数值和描述被归在一起,编入附属的手册,称为“别册”。
    These numbers and descriptions were collected and listed in some append book, called Bessatsu(別冊). 
     
    在查阅别册时,就好比在看试卷的答题卡。但如果把别册里面的数值和描述涂黑,你就根本不知道说啥。
    When you look up to the append book, just like viewing the answer sheet of an exam paper. But when numbers and descriptions were censored, you'll never know what it said. 
     
    比如说,正面防护:
    For example, the frontal protection: 
     
    “耐弾性 - 正面 - 正面要部は、【あ】に射距離【え】m相当存速において、貫徹されない。”
     
    读起来是这样的:
    耐弹性 - 正面 - 正面重要部位可抵御【あ】以相当于射击距离【え】米存速的射击,不会贯穿。
    It read like this: 
    Protection - Frontal - Frontal crucial part should withstand 【あ】 firing at a distance of 【え】meter speed reduce equivalent, and not penetrate. 
     
    【あ】代表某种弹药,可能是尾翼稳定穿甲弹,但不知道是量产弹种还是实验弹种。
    【あ】stands for certain type of ammunition, probably APFSDS, but don't know whether it is production shot or experimental.
     
    【え】代表某个射击距离,可以是1000、1500或2000(米),但这么远的距离,炮弹会受到风力和重力影响,故无法精确瞄准靶车的防护区域。
    【え】stands for certain firing distance, could be 1000 , 1500 or 2000 (meters), but on such a long distance, shot could be effect by wind and gravity, thus cannot aim on the protection area of target vehicle precisely.
     
    一个常见的解决方式是在更近的距离上开火,比如说200到550米,同时减少推进药量,使得穿甲弹的终点速度符合特定距离的速降。这是一种等效方法。
    The usual solution is to fire from a much closer range, from 200 to 550 meters, while reducing the propellant charge so that the end speed of AP shot could match the speed drop on certain distance. This is an equivalant method. 
     
    有的人争辩说90式战车可以抵挡另一辆90式战车发射的穿甲弹(JM33),距离大约250米。这一说法源自一段未知视频片段,具体什么视频他们自己也没看过。较近的射击距离是为了能更好的瞄准,为此可能使用了减装药来模拟远距离终点速度,但也无法证明。
    Some people argue that Type 90 MBT can withstand AP shot (JM33) firing from another Type 90 MBT, on a distance about 250 meters. The source of this statement came from an unknown video clip, which they have never seen. Firing on closer range is for better aim, and they could have use reduced charge to simulate a much longer range, but we cannot prove. 
     
     
  2. Tank You
    Byakuya Ai reacted to Molota_477 in Vehicles of the PLA: Now with refreshing new topic title!   
    Modified MBT-2000(many details very closed to the VT-4 mod.2012,but with 6TD-2 engine) and BK1871(the initial prototype of Type-90 II/MBT-2000)appear in a last year documentary video.【央视纪录片】军工记忆-链接世界 CCTV9

    Modified MBT-2000↑
     

    The BK 1871 on the left, note its very sloping UFP , and side by side is the MBT-2000 FP-1, FP means "Formal  Prototype", which was designed a new hull nose structure.
    More pics about BK1871:



     
     
     
    There are also another interesting details of MBT-2000 )

  3. Tank You
    Byakuya Ai reacted to Jagdika in WWII Japanese Tanks in China   
    All photos were taken by myself in year 2016 during my visit to Beijing. Tanks are from the Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution and the Tank Museum(currently closed). Enjoy.
     
    No.1: Type 94 Light armored car (Tankette) in the Tank Museum
     





     
    This is the early version of the Type 94 Tankette. It was found in a river in 1970s. It is the best preserved Type 94 Tankette in the world.
     
    No.2: Type 97 Medium Tank in the Tank Museum
     




     







    This is a late version Type 97 medium tank. It carries the old small 57mm gun turret but has the revised engine ventilation port. This tank was donated by the Soviet 7th mechanized division  before they withdrew from China in 1955.
     
    No.3: Type 97 Medium Tank Kai in the Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution
     

     


     
     
     
      This Type 97 Medium Tank Kai's combat serial number is 102. It belonged to the former China North-East tank regiment. It took part in the attack of Jinzhou against KMT army on 1948-9-14, and did great contribution for knocking out their bunkers and MG nests by shooting and ramming. Thus after the battle this tank was awarded with an honored name:"The Hero(功臣号)“ About the tank itself, it was assembled by the Chinese army themselves by using destroyed or damaged Chi-Ha parts after the surrender of Japan. This particular tank was built up with a normal Type 97's chassis(57mm gun version) early model, and a Type 97 Kai's Shinhoto(New turret for the 47mm gun). However there are other saying claim that this tank was modified by the Japanese. It was the first tank that roared over the Tiananmen Square during the Founding Ceremony of China on 1949-10-1.
     
     

    The same tank on 1949-10-1. China's tank army origins from old IJA tanks.
     
    No.4: Type 97 Medium Tank in the Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution
     

    Sorry, only one photo was taken. This Type 97 Medium Tank has a chassis from Type 97 Medium Tank Kai and a turret from a normal Type 97 Medium Tank. It was merged together by the Chinese army.
     
    No.5: Type 95 Armored Track(Train track) Vehicle in the Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution
     



     
    Only two samples survived. One is in China here and one is in Kubinka, Russia (Maybe now it is transfered to the Patriot Park? I don't know).
     
     
    Hope you enjoy the photos I took! No repost to other places without my permission.
  4. Tank You
    Byakuya Ai reacted to Laviduce in Contemporary Western Tank Rumble!   
    Updated volume model:
     

  5. Tank You
    Byakuya Ai reacted to Jagdika in About Waffentrager’s “Type 5 gun tank” post   
    In case some of the netizens on WT forum and Reddit doubt my source of reference, I will post them out here.
    All the original archives I used are accessible for the public can be found in the Japan National Archive center's website here: https://www.jacar.archives.go.jp/aj/meta/reference 
    And here is the two archives mentioned by both Waffentrager and me:
    C14011075200: https://www.jacar.archives.go.jp/aj/meta/image_C14011075200?IS_KIND=RefSummary&IS_STYLE=default&IS_TAG_S1=d2&IS_KEY_S1=C14011075200& 
    C13120839500:https://www.jacar.archives.go.jp/aj/meta/listPhoto?NO=1&DB_ID=G0000101EXTERNAL&ID=%24_ID&LANG=default&image_num=6&IS_STYLE=default&TYPE=PDF&DL_TYPE=pdf&REFCODE=C13120839400&CN=1
    And books I used:





     

     
    Many documents and archives regarding WWII Japanese tanks have already been public viewable, there is always someone don't know.
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