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1 hour ago, Mighty_Zuk said:
The electronic architecture is always the most difficult part of an AFV to create, if you're making an AFV from scratch.
Electronic architecture of new howitzer must be changed.
1 hour ago, Mighty_Zuk said:The M-71 never used any component of the ATMOS.
Atmos has similarities with M-71. IMO, it's based on M-71.
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17 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said:
The original ATMOS used a loading assistance device that could hold 3 projectiles in place, and required manual loading of the propellant charge.
Actually, there is a big difference between manually operated cannon on a truck and unmanned turret.
QuoteLoading the charge and primer automatically does not make this an entirely new system. It's a rather minor addition when you look at the whole system.
Then, there is no big difference between Atmos and M-71 - just some "minor additions".
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52 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said:
They're using the same L/52 made in Soltam's Yokneam plant. Not exactly sure what you mean.
I mean turret and autoloader.
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13 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said:
Again, the ATMOS is the architecture of the system. It's not the truck or the gun. They're using expansions based on the ATMOS architecture to create this new howitzer. The IDF will give it a new name, but it's obvious what Elbit is basing this on.
It will be another type of howitzer, not just a cannon on a truck - that's the point. Atmos itself is based on other howitzer too.
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13 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said:
What's funny about that?
Because the howitzer they are going to adopt is not Atmos, and it's good that it isn't.
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51 minutes ago, SPARTAN ARMED said:
That's funny - they claim that the new howitzer to be adopted is Atmos, and than, say that it will be fully automatic.
38 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said:I doubt it. IronVision is part of the Barak MBT. They're not going to just retrofit segments of the Barak to existing tanks because of logistical issues. It's also a complex system which may require revamped training courses for maintenance staff. And without the many upgrades going into the Barak, it may be somewhat out of context, and not fulfilling its potential. It's also why we're not seeing the IronVision tested on the Namer or Eitan yet.
It's already tested on Bradley.
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1 hour ago, Marsh said:
I wonder why some of the Merkava turrets are blurred out and others not?
Maybe Iron Vision is installed.
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10 minutes ago, skylancer-3441 said:
Without having a definition of what you mean by "enough", I have no idea what that statement means.
And that instragram photo does not even have people sitting iside this vehicle, so it basically shows nothing on that matter.Enough space to leave the vehicle easy.
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On 2/15/2019 at 2:15 PM, skylancer-3441 said:
"relatively"
It's much narrower, compared to what could be expected given Namer's width when measured by tracks -
partly because of those antimine seats and because of whatever is located behind them on this pic:Spoiler
in the end soldiers seat in wery tight knee-to-knee configuration, although on those two pics its partly because of backpacks they wearing.
different seats + not wearing backpacks inside = much more spacious, look at this Bradley photo:
or T-15 Armata, to that matter:
Actually, Namer has enough space
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3 hours ago, Lord_James said:
I thought they used pneumatic or combination liquid-gas pistons for recoil.
The gun's recoil mechanism is composed of two hydraulic retarders and a hydropneumatic assembly.
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8 hours ago, Mighty_Zuk said:
Loaders hatch was sealed by armor. But it was there:
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5 hours ago, Mighty_Zuk said:
The single hatch variant was an early production one
I think they all had the loader's hatch.
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On 3/3/2019 at 11:13 AM, Serge said:
They already have M60, why did they bought Leopard 2 ?
Talks between Turkey and GIAT Industries started in 1998.
A Leclerc MBT followed 8 months of tests in 2000 in winter and summer conditions.
The TNMBT programme was launched in 2004.
The French proposal was made in 2005.
Everything was stopped in 2007 because of heavy diplomatic problems between France and Turkey. So, the K2 was chosen in place.
OK, it's an old cancelled project, not Leclerc.
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4 hours ago, Mighty_Zuk said:
Just because the components are moved by truck, doesn't make it fully mobile. A truly mobile system is what something along the lines of the Soviet Pantsir, Tor, or M-VSHORAD of the US Army. Something you mount on one truck and can respond within seconds, or at worst a minute or two, to incoming fire.
A typical Iron Dome battery takes several minutes to set up each component, and is thus suitable for defense of cities, strategic installations, or FOBs, but not mobile troops.
There is no big difference between current Dome and the one on the picture - just a primitive radar installed.
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1 hour ago, Mighty_Zuk said:
Export.... to whom?
Most countries who would choose to buy a Rafael IADS would either buy a SpyDer or a David's Sling, but not the Iron Dome, because these are designed from the beginning to be more suitable for a conventional threat rather than artillery and the likes of it.
The US is the only customer so far, and they're going for the static version and an eventual integration with the MML.
The only customer that specifically requested a completely mobile unit, is the IDF. Which makes sense because Rafael released this image when the IDF declared its intentions to purchase a mobile Iron Dome dubbed iDome by Rafael.
To anyone. The vehicle on the image is just a concept. It may never be released.
Current version of Iron Dome can be used both as static and as mobile.
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10 hours ago, Mighty_Zuk said:
From a couple months ago:
Just replace the MAN truck with an Oshkosh.
Just an export vehicle.
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17 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said:
Nope. Not this. What you see here is merely the launcher of a static system.
The mobile version will have only 10 missiles and not 20, will have its own radar on the same vehicle, and I assume also a control room in there as well.
Actually, it is mobile.
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1 hour ago, Clan_Ghost_Bear said:
Is there any good info on the Turkish Leclerc project? I've only been able to find an image of it.
They already have Leo 2, why should they buy Leclerc?
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What are these round things on the turret? Radars?
Israeli AFVs
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Because it's automatic systems. It is said that it will choose shells and charges automatically, at least.
Yes, and the new howitzer will differ from cannon on a truck.