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David Moyes

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  1. This is a couple of months old but in all the Ajax shenanigans I forgot to post it: British Army ‘reviewing’ MRV-P options Multirole Vehicle-Protected is a British Army program to replace the myriad of mine resistant vehicles acquired during the "War on Terror" with a common platform for all force elements. MRV-P Requirements Variants required would be split into 3 groups: Group 1 - General Purpose Group 2 - Troop Carrier, Ambulance Group 3 - Recovery Fast forward to 2016: In classic British Army fashion the whole point of the program was defeated when the L-ATV was chosen for Group 1 without competition. Bushmaster and Eagle V 6x6 would compete for Group 2. No choices were selected for Group 3 but the Recovery variants of Penman Metras, Supacat HMT 600 and Eagle 6x6 were known bidders. Group 3 Candidates The Army tried to justify this decision saying that the L-ATV was closet to the requirements (wut?), could be acquired quickly and it's low base price meant that even with the necessary modifications (convert to right-hand drive) no other could compete. A unit was acquired and multi-year testing commenced. It should be noted that all this came shortly after the Brexit Referendum. In the wake of the vote the Government announced a new Industrial Strategy and prosperity agenda. Basically, buy British. It was pointed out that an L-ATV buy would go against this and any UK content/involvement would be limited. Further a couple of years after the decision rumours began to circulate that the Army had totally miscalculated the extent of modifications needed and the price of a British spec'd L-ATV would not only be comparable to other platforms but might even be more expensive. A price bandied about was £750k per for a deployment ready unit. Group 2 trials were only mentioned as ongoing and Group 3 disappeared, seemingly cancelled. Final decision and buy was supposed to happen in 2020. After MRV-P again failed to appear in the 2021 White Paper the British Army said it was reviewing the programs options: https://www.army-technology.com/news/mrv-p-review/ As was stated when first announced, L-ATV does not meet Government prosperity requirements and the MoD has refused the buy. Notoriously the Army often sees US equipment as the "gold-plated" option and is still pushing for L-ATV. This review may simply be for show. However if it's not there are a few options that have confirmed British production line: Thales - Pushing Bushmaster and a Hawkei recently turned up at their Glasgow facility. But 2 different platforms and Hawkei is unproven. Penman - Metras is built on the Mercedes UNIMOG chassis and meets basically all requirements. 4x4, 6x6 and many variants built and tested. Composite crew module and higher than average agility due to competing for Protected Patrol Vehicle that saw Foxhound win. Small company and so originally bid with BAE but Rheinmetall merger and Boxer production line may mean they will have to look for a new partner. General Dynamics - Eagle V also mostly meets requirements and is built on the In-UK-Service DURO platform. On going tensions between Army and company won't help. There are also the two in-service platforms in General Dynamics's Foxhound and Supacat HMT to consider. Both have proposed required variants, modular design and are currently being used to test hybrid drive. Adding to the fleet would theoretically be much faster if only new modules needed to be tested rather than the entire platform.
  2. @alanch90 https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/a76c7259-26f3-43f2-b721-03957c76fcd3 17:16:59
  3. Foxhound demonstrator with hybrid drive neutral steering:
  4. Contract for Challenger 2 armour trials: https://ted.europa.eu/udl?uri=TED:NOTICE:358117-2021:TEXT:EN:HTML&src=0 Source:
  5. How it started ^ How it's going:
  6. "The data from the trial suggests up to an 80% drop in detection with the naked eye abs hand held optics. We also tested it against other sensors but that’s not for twitter. One of the hypotheses was “it’s possible to spoof AI and create delay in the targeting cycle”." Sources:
  7. Ajax situation is ramping up. Trials have been suspended for a second time and Ministers now believe that senior officers hid the extent of problems so that it would not get cancelled during the integrated review. Tricking Ministers will likely be Ajax's death knell.
  8. Trophy MV confirmed for Challenger 3: https://www.joint-forces.com/defence-equipment-news/44450-rafael-trophy-aps-selected-for-uk-challenger-3
  9. Is it possible that the Revolution turret is now an original IP and no longer based on the Leo 2 turret? A wholly owned turret solution by Rheinmetall? --------------------------------------------- Side turret ballast:
  10. CR3 turret is apparently just Rheinmetall's Revolution turret: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  11. @TokyoMorose The test rig was shown with an exhaust management add-on:
  12. It's possible that Ajax (or just turreted scout variant) has been cancelled... British Defence journalists:
  13. Texelis, QinetiQ Collaborate to Develop in-wheel Electric Hub Drive Tech for Armoured Vehicles https://www.defenseworld.net/news/29597/Texelis__QinetiQ_Collaborate_to_Develop_in_wheel_Electric_Hub_Drive_Tech_for_Armoured_Vehicles Is this a private endeavour or is the French Army interested in hub drive?
  14. I had a catalogue that listed available products through Thales UK but can't find it now.
  15. That is the highest resolution available. Taken directly from the CO of ATDU twitter account. It's one of several camouflage experiments rather than an official Theatre Standard.
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  17. This news is a bit old but posting now I have time: UK outlines future anti-armour requirements Mounted Close Combat Overwatch (MCCO) - Long Range ATGM Proposals by Thales, MBDA and Lockheed Martin using Brimstone missiles: Thales: "Dstl also showed a concept developed by Thales showing an Ares vehicle equipped with a remote turret that does not protrude into the vehicle’s hull and carried eight missiles." MBDA: "During a presentation on the capability, Dstl showcased concepts from MBDA detailing an Ares vehicle carrying eight Brimstone missiles on a swing launcher as well as a Boxer module carrying 16 Brimstone missiles on one side of the vehicle as well as its previously shown concept of a TheMIS UGV carrying a Brimstone launcher." Lockheed Martin: "As well as devising the Boxer module, Lockheed Martin has also developed a concept for an ISO container filled with VLS tubes and carried on a MAN SV truck. This MAN SV-based system would be able to carry 50 plus missiles." - Boxer module can carry 16 missiles CCAAW – mounted and dismounted effects Javelin ATGM replacement. Supposedly Spike 2 has been earmarked for this. The Army was waiting to see what the US did with Javelin. Sources: https://www.army-technology.com/features/lockheed-martin-uk-unwraps-future-anti-armour-concept/ https://www.army-technology.com/features/lockheed-martin-uk-unwraps-future-anti-armour-concept/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UK Warrior upgrade cancellation makes sale of CT40 cannons likely Source: https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/uk-warrior-upgrade-cancellation-makes-sale-of-ct40-cannons-likely ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pretty much what I thought would happen. The Army dumping CT40. Not even keeping them as spares for Ajax is a telling sign. I can see Rheinmetall pushing a British-ised Lance turret.
  18. Jon Hawkes reports that the choice is M829A4 or KE2020Neo. Modifications explored to accommodate former: Two armour suites. ERA and (inert) NERA. Trophy MV APS: Engine upgrade focussed on obsolescent. 1500nhp may come later:
  19. CV90120-T Low-Profile Turret and Modular Armour This is apparently a few years old but I don't remember seeing it.
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