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Voodoo

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  1. Norway buys 54 new Leopard 2s https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/norway-order-54-new-army-tanks-germany-nrk-2023-02-03/
  2. The trailer was 15 tons over weight. This doesn't have anything to do with the tank itself.
  3. Thanks for the info regarding the L8A1, never heard or seen it. Could Hptm Harling be meaning "any type of bag charges" when saying L8A1? As it has never been used in Norway. Ever since the adaption of 155 mm artillery, M4A2 and NM23(Norwegian produced M4A2 White bag, with seven bags ranging from 3 to 7) has been used. I'm pretty sure norwegian ammo was given to all, so it has to be either the NM23 or the DM72, as that's the only propellant available. They could have given out the NM23 only, as the M109A3GNM sight is matched with seven bags, and didn't think anything of it. Just speculation on my part. When I said the K9 had the most accurate gun I was not talking about the direct firing trials - I don't know the results. I meant the indirect firing only. I should have specified.
  4. I might remember wrong, they could have done some firing at 1,400 meters later on. But that first picture you posted is from the 850 m stand, and they were definetly firing from there. As far as I know, all competitors were firing Norwegian projectiles and charges. L8A1? Could you elaborate? Never heard of it. The K9's gun itself is more accurate. It had almost no spread compared to the others.
  5. Can't really comment much, other than the PzH 2000 is massive and heavy, and is prone to breaking down. I have never seen a full battery drive back to base by themselves from an exercise. The loading mechanism is also quite sensitive to dust and dirt. Now, this is my impression from the things I've been told and seen over the years - I do not have any personal experience with it. + Stores more ammo K9 + The most accurate gun + The most mobile - Some Korean solutions I can't wrap my head around Crew level nitpicking: Pzh 2000 has more fancy and comfy seats all over, while the K9 has these "hurts your ass if you sit in it for more than one hour"-seats. Tried to paste this in the general arty thread, but couldn't. Thought it would be better to discuss this there.
  6. The direct firing tests were not done at 1400 m, more like 900, FYI.
  7. Should indeed. But the politicians doesn't care about that stuff.
  8. Damn, they're not holding back on anything.
  9. It is caused when firing at longer distances. Longer distances = more propellant, but it does't manage to burn all the propellant in the chamber before the shell exits the tube.
  10. A common thing to do. We did that too with our box fresh K9s.
  11. Upgrading isn't an option any more. Now, Hyundai Rotem has offered to manufacture the complete chassis and gun, while the turret and final assembly will be done in Norway. = jobs and some money back. This has been talked about as recently as this week, as Chief of the Armed Forces said that a lot of money disappear out of the country via investments. What's the possibility of Germany offerering a similar deal?
  12. What upgrades are the A6A3 and A6(M)A4?
  13. I'm just saying gear, weapons and all kinds of shit makes people bulky. It might be spacious either way though.
  14. "Plenty of room" they say, with no equipment, weapons or gear on. Civilians..
  15. Calling the K9 a copy of the M109 is a bit of a stretch.
  16. jesus christ, what a mental case. 145 mm smoothbore howitzer. Yeah, good luck hitting anything at all beyond 15 meters. Came across another mad cunt while searching. http://pogoarchives.org/labyrinth/11/12.pdf http://pogoarchives.org/labyrinth/09/07.pdf
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