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  1. Tank You
    Voodoo got a reaction from Clan_Ghost_Bear in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    Norway buys 54 new Leopard 2s
     
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/norway-order-54-new-army-tanks-germany-nrk-2023-02-03/
  2. Tank You
    Voodoo got a reaction from Voltzz in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    Norway buys 54 new Leopard 2s
     
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/norway-order-54-new-army-tanks-germany-nrk-2023-02-03/
  3. Tank You
    Voodoo got a reaction from Laser Shark in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    Norway buys 54 new Leopard 2s
     
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/norway-order-54-new-army-tanks-germany-nrk-2023-02-03/
  4. Tank You
    Voodoo got a reaction from Glattrohr in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    Norway buys 54 new Leopard 2s
     
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/norway-order-54-new-army-tanks-germany-nrk-2023-02-03/
  5. Tank You
    Voodoo got a reaction from SH_MM in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    Norway buys 54 new Leopard 2s
     
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/norway-order-54-new-army-tanks-germany-nrk-2023-02-03/
  6. Tank You
    Voodoo reacted to Beer in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    You invaded another country and you keep turning it into a pile of rubble. You are fully responsible for all what is happening. Don't even try to portay Russia as a victim. Noone was attacking Russia and noone is attacking it even now even though it fully deserves that and the only things which prevents that is nukes. 
  7. Tank You
    Voodoo reacted to Alzoc in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    Story on how Russia needed to dig T-62 out of storage seems to be confirmed.
    T-62M spotted at Melitopol train station :
     
     
    Will probably either be used by occupation units or handed-over to separatists. Either way, it probably mean that there aren't many better machines left in storage and that they must keep them for the main forces. Which raise the question on how many tanks among the many thousands in storage are still in reasonable working order or can be refurbished.
     
    Regardless on the way this war will end, it seem that reconstituting Russian forces will be a tall order (especially without access to modern semi-conductors and other parts).
  8. Tank You
    Voodoo reacted to Beer in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    Ukraine released alleged leaked documents from Russian 1st guards tank army concerning unit losses as of 15th March. The documents seems to be legit. 
    https://gur.gov.ua/content/do-seredyny-bereznia-zdalysia-v-polon-blyzko-sta-rosiiskykh-tankistiv.html
     
    It shows rather low number of casualties in comparison with absolutely stunning vehicle losses. I remember the 1st GTA lost huge number of vehicles in its initial push just being stuck in mud or running out of fuel which is confirmed by the document. 
     
    Anyway the total number of casualties after 3 weeks of fighting was 61 KIA, 209 WIA, 44 MIA, 96 POW. Altogether 410. 
     
    The number of lost tanks per unit during the same period. Overal it's 125 tanks. 
    1st tank regiment, 2nd motorrifle division: 45 T-72B3 obr.2016 (of 93!)
    12th tank regiment, 4th guards tank division: 18 T-80U
    13th tank regiment, 4th guards tank division: 47 T-80UE (of 83!)
    423rd motorrifle regiment, 4th guards tank division: 6 T-80BV
    27th motorized rifle brigade: 9 T-90A 
     
    This status is from just days before another defeat in the battle of Trostianec which caused another large losses followed by retreat from the whole Sumy and Chernigiv regions. Also if we go by the number of T-80U/UE tanks from this time period showed on Oryx's blog we can see that the actual number of losses is even higher than listed by him.  
  9. Tank You
    Voodoo reacted to Atokara in Ukrainian armor - Oplot-M, T-64M Bulat and other.   
    Some of Russia's most common losses are T-72B/B3s, T-80U/BVMs, BTR-82As, Tigr-Ms,  KamAZ 6x6. Please point to the use of these vehicles in Ukraine service. Also unironically the only fake Z's I've seen on vehicles was that really bad photoshop that was actually made by Russian's who then tried to pass it off as proofs that Ukraine was faking numbers.
    Also I'm still waiting for you to find even a 0.0008% error rate in Oryx reporting.
  10. Tank You
    Voodoo reacted to Beer in Ukrainian armor - Oplot-M, T-64M Bulat and other.   
    It doesn't matter for whom Oryx works or whom he supports. The point is that majority of the documented losses on his blog are real. Most of them have gigantic letters Z and V written on them and a large part of the machinery is also exclusively used only by Russia. There is certainly a grey zone in which certain losses can be attributed to both sides (lostarmour.info for comparison) but that doesn't make the list useless because there is still a lot of undisputable facts which one can take from the database. See, the 4th Guards Kantemirovskaya tank division is the only unit in this war using T-80U family of tanks. Those can't be mixed with Ukrainean. They are Russian and they are of 4th division. That's a fact. This division which was considered one of the best in the Russian army beyond any doubt lost more than 1/3 of its tanks. It doesn't mattter who delivered the message but without Oryx's list we would hardly know that because lostarmour doesn't show Russian losses at all (perhaps is not allowed to do so). 
     
    My previous point that there are most likely numerous Ukrainean losses missing in the database was not about the databse per se. It's natural thing done by the side which controls the territory where losses occur. See how many Azeri losses surfaces only after the 2019 war? We will never know how many never got on public. That's simply the advantage of the side which controls the battlefield and it will continue to be like that in any future conflict.  
  11. Tank You
    Voodoo reacted to Atokara in Ukrainian armor - Oplot-M, T-64M Bulat and other.   
    The dude likes the TB2 which objectively has had an excellent track record across Nagorno-Karabakh and this war. Whether or not they were destroyed by a TB2 or not doesn't change the fact that they are destroyed.
    We are now at 3570 destroyed Russian vehicles. I would like you to find just 3 examples of falsely attributed kill claims. That would be a 0.0008% error rate.
     
    Those "experts" aren't making one of the best publicly available compiled documentations of equipment losses in a modern war ever. Are they? Also before you were slamming for
    ,but now you are defending these nameless defense tech experts with no military background?
     
  12. Tank You
    Voodoo reacted to Atokara in Ukrainian armor - Oplot-M, T-64M Bulat and other.   
    If your only criticism of Oryx is that they are slow then idk what to tell you. This is their current backlog which includes both RU and UKR vehicles.

    Also you're full of it on the waiting a week or two for the Bulat in the field since it was uploaded the day it was lost
     
    From what i can remember the guy behind Oryx worked as a consultant with ASELSAN prior to all this. Regardless where does he even give analysis on any of the losses he posts? He literally just posts the photos with dates and compiles it all in one place which is about as objective as you can get. Also if what you're saying qualifies someone on the subject, one of the largest anti-Oryx voices is a guy literally named armchair warlord who tried to claim that a T-72 Obr. 2016 picture was from the war in 2014, found 5 actual errors (that have been corrected) out of thousands, then hid his profile .
  13. Metal
    Voodoo reacted to Pardus in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    There's a clear cut difference between bringing down dictatorships and terrorist states, versus invading a democratic country.
     
    But I guess your forum emblem explains it all. The Cold War is over, the genocidal Soviet Union fell, trying to bring it back is the definition of insanity and backwards thinking. 
     
  14. Metal
    Voodoo reacted to Cleb in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea   
    Just to keep it simple with the base K1 and K1A1 the whole family is:
    K1: Base model, 105mm KM68A1 
    K1A1: Base model, 120mm KM256, improved commander's sight the KCPS
    K1E1: Upgraded K1, retains the KM68A1, "digital battlefield control system", improved IFF system with an IFF interrogator above the gun (though not always mounted), driver's front and rear cameras, driver's thermal camera (though not always mounted), GPS
    K1A2: Upgraded K1A1, retains the KM256, "digital battlefield control system", improved IFF system with an IFF interrogator above the gun (though not always mounted), driver's front and rear cameras, driver's thermal camera (though not always mounted), GPS
     
    There might be more I am missing but most of these features are visually identifiable. 
    (https://kookbang.dema.mil.kr/newsWeb/20190104/1/BBSMSTR_000000010263/view.do 
    https://post.naver.com/viewer/postView.nhn?volumeNo=17495759)

    (https://kookbang.dema.mil.kr/newsWeb/20190201/2/BBSMSTR_000000010263/view.do
    https://www.hyundai-rotem.co.kr/Eng/Business/Machine/Business_Record_View.asp?brid=33)

  15. Tank You
    Voodoo reacted to SH_MM in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    Then that is a mistake on my end; the captions only said that the photo shows Panzerhaubitze 2000 during the direct fire trials. The text specifically mentions that (some of) the direct firing trials were conducted at 1,400 m range.
     
    The Panzerhaubitze 2000 was originally developed with the use of a modular propellant charge system (DM72, DM82, etc.).
     

     
    When the Panzerhaubitze 2000 was originally deployed in Afghanistan, it was discovered that the modular propellant charges used back then had issues with consistency/temperature sensitivity, which resulted in old L8A1 propellant charges being used.
     

     
    The L8A1 is a tubular container/cylinder, into which up to seven propellant bags/sticks are inserted. In Germany, there is a special case of an eight propellant bag/stick being loaded for direct firing (when eight charges are used, they are all loaded at once in a large bag). This was done already with the M109 and is also done with the Panzerhaubitze 2000.
     
    According to Hptm Harling, the Panzerhaubitze 2000 was trialed with the L8A1 propellant. No idea why, maybe it was issued by the Norwegian forces or it was used because the temperature sensitivity of the modular propellant charges was not fixed back then. But it was not an ideal solution for the Panzerhaubtize 2000 and according to Harling, direct firing trials were conducted with the L8A1 containing only seven charge bags/sticks. The battlesight of the Panzerhaubitze 2000 (and Germany's older M109 after upgrades) were designed for an "overcharge", i.e. L8A1 with eight propellant charge bags/sticks or maximum possible amount of modular charge modules.
     
    Sounds like a reasonable theory. As both the L/52 barrels of K9 and PzH 2000 are JBMoU compatible guns, there shouldn't be relevant differences in the construction of barrel and breech, suggesting that other factors - such as the cold gun effect - played a role.
     
  16. Tank You
    Voodoo got a reaction from SH_MM in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    I might remember wrong, they could have done some firing at 1,400 meters later on. But that first picture you posted is from the 850 m stand, and they were definetly firing from there. 
     
    As far as I know, all competitors were firing Norwegian projectiles and charges. L8A1? Could you elaborate? Never heard of it.
    The K9's gun itself is more accurate. It had almost no spread compared to the others.
  17. Tank You
    Voodoo got a reaction from Stimpy75 in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    I might remember wrong, they could have done some firing at 1,400 meters later on. But that first picture you posted is from the 850 m stand, and they were definetly firing from there. 
     
    As far as I know, all competitors were firing Norwegian projectiles and charges. L8A1? Could you elaborate? Never heard of it.
    The K9's gun itself is more accurate. It had almost no spread compared to the others.
  18. Tank You
    Voodoo got a reaction from Stimpy75 in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    Can't really comment much, other than the PzH 2000 is massive and heavy, and is prone to breaking down. I have never seen a full battery drive back to base by themselves from an exercise. The loading mechanism is also quite sensitive to dust and dirt. Now, this is my impression from the things I've been told and seen over the years - I do not have any personal experience with it. 
    + Stores more ammo
     
    K9
    + The most accurate gun
    + The most mobile 
    - Some Korean solutions I can't wrap my head around
     
    Crew level nitpicking:
    Pzh 2000 has more fancy and comfy seats all over, while the K9 has these "hurts your ass if you sit in it for more than one hour"-seats. 
     
     
     
    Tried to paste this in the general arty thread, but couldn't. Thought it would be better to discuss this there.
     
     
  19. Tank You
    Voodoo got a reaction from Laser Shark in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    I might remember wrong, they could have done some firing at 1,400 meters later on. But that first picture you posted is from the 850 m stand, and they were definetly firing from there. 
     
    As far as I know, all competitors were firing Norwegian projectiles and charges. L8A1? Could you elaborate? Never heard of it.
    The K9's gun itself is more accurate. It had almost no spread compared to the others.
  20. Metal
    Voodoo got a reaction from Laser Shark in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    Can't really comment much, other than the PzH 2000 is massive and heavy, and is prone to breaking down. I have never seen a full battery drive back to base by themselves from an exercise. The loading mechanism is also quite sensitive to dust and dirt. Now, this is my impression from the things I've been told and seen over the years - I do not have any personal experience with it. 
    + Stores more ammo
     
    K9
    + The most accurate gun
    + The most mobile 
    - Some Korean solutions I can't wrap my head around
     
    Crew level nitpicking:
    Pzh 2000 has more fancy and comfy seats all over, while the K9 has these "hurts your ass if you sit in it for more than one hour"-seats. 
     
     
     
    Tried to paste this in the general arty thread, but couldn't. Thought it would be better to discuss this there.
     
     
  21. Tank You
    Voodoo got a reaction from SH_MM in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    Can't really comment much, other than the PzH 2000 is massive and heavy, and is prone to breaking down. I have never seen a full battery drive back to base by themselves from an exercise. The loading mechanism is also quite sensitive to dust and dirt. Now, this is my impression from the things I've been told and seen over the years - I do not have any personal experience with it. 
    + Stores more ammo
     
    K9
    + The most accurate gun
    + The most mobile 
    - Some Korean solutions I can't wrap my head around
     
    Crew level nitpicking:
    Pzh 2000 has more fancy and comfy seats all over, while the K9 has these "hurts your ass if you sit in it for more than one hour"-seats. 
     
     
     
    Tried to paste this in the general arty thread, but couldn't. Thought it would be better to discuss this there.
     
     
  22. Funny
    Voodoo reacted to Collimatrix in BlackTailDefense Doesn't Know Shit About Tank Design   
    Just a reminder that Mike Spark's website is a high-level cognitohazard and should not be read without a protective layer of alcohol to prevent brain damage.
  23. Tank You
    Voodoo reacted to 123 in The Leopard 2 Thread   
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  24. Tank You
    Voodoo reacted to SH_MM in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    It has not been officially announced, but gathering from different German defence news publications, the following should be part of the upgrade:
    control panels/operating concept from Leopard 2A7 upgraded fire control system with third generation thermal imager (for the commander at least, as reportedly not all spare parts are being made for the OPHELIOS thermal imager anymore) hull brought up to Leopard 2A7 standards - whatever this means, it has not been stated by a reliable source. Might include the upgraded NBC protection system, improved hull side armor, APU, reinforced torsion bars etc. or not.  
     
  25. Tank You
    Voodoo got a reaction from 2805662 in Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV   
    I'm just saying gear, weapons and all kinds of shit makes people bulky. It might be spacious either way though.
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