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18 hours ago, Laviduce said:
"Allegedly"from the Japanese MOD some time ago:According to _David_Bowie_ in the WT forum, these images were also featured in the
"Fifty Year History, Technical Research and Development Institute, Defense Agency, Technical Research and Development 6. Research Institute 1" (of Japan):
https://dl.ndl.go.jp/view/download/digidepo_1283286_po_TRDI50_08.pdf?contentNo=8&alternativeNo=
Here is the PDF link of the original document
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It is true that Mai took the image from a Japanese patent. But, The conclusion is wrong
This patent has been registered worldwide. And that patent has nothing to do with The Japan Steel Works who built the 105GSR turret. That patent is just for BOFORS AB
He did not provide any evidence that patent was related to the 105GSR.
Contemporary Western Tank Rumble!
in Mechanized Warfare
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@SH_MM
I have a question.
In 1984, Japan began preparing for the import of 120mm L/44 guns and ammunition from Rheinmetall for the second prototype of the Type 90 tank, and in 1985 it was decided to purchase the guns and ammunition. In this case, is it possible to import guns and ammunition separately?
According to the opinion that Japan used the DM33 for testing of the Type 90 tank,
Japan purchased the prototype DM33 (definitely nonsense)
At the time of the 1985 contract, Japan agreed to deliver the DM33 in 1987 through consultation with Rheinmetall.
Type 90 tank uses the DM33, DM33 would have been delivered and used in 1987 for FCS testing.
But is this possible?
here is the timeline.
Timeline
1984
Preparation of imports of ammunition and guns from Rheinmetall for the second prototype of Type 90. DM33 development started.
1985
decision to purchase the 120mm cannon and ammunition of the second prototype of the Type 90 tank was decided at "昭和60年7月装備審査会議調整部会".
Imported ammunition (DM12, DM23) and 120mm cannons from Rheinmetall.
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Japan Steel Works, Daikin Industries, and Komatsu Works began negotiations to sign an MOU with Rheinmetall in February 1985.
DM33 is still in development.
1986
Production of the second prototype of Type 90. (prototype No. 3 and No. 4)
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Japan Steel Works, Daikin Industries, and Komatsu Works sign MOU with Rheinmetall.
prototype of the DM33 was first shown at AUSA 86.
1987
Production of the second prototype of Type 90. (prototype No. 5 and No. 6)
Testing of the second prototype of the Type 90 tank.
DM33 has delivered to the German Army.
1988
End of testing of the second prototype of the Type 90.
1989
Final test in JGDSF, February to September.
Japan Steel Works, Daikin Industries, and Komatsu Works begin negotiations for license production with Rheinmetall.
1990
On July 17, negotiations of licensel production has finished.
In August, officially named as Type 90 tank.