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    Scolopax reacted to LoooSeR in Jihad design bureau and their less mad opponents creations for killing each other.   
    Another Armenian branch of JDB contraption, now on BMP-1. A classic ZU-23-2 autocannon should be a good addition! 

     
     
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    Scolopax reacted to Beer in Anti-air thread: Everything that goes up must come down, and we'll help you go down   
    Some historical but relevant stuff. What could have been but was not. In Lešany museum near Prague you can find a prototype of Czechoslovak SPAAG Strop II. This system placed on a modified Dana chassis was being developed during late 80' and early 90' but ended with the dissolution of Czechoslovakia. 
     
    I'm posting it because it had a completely unique targeting system which is IMHO still relevant for the future because it was completely passive. It combined passive radioelectronic locators with optical guidance. It had two passive locators, one for survilance (PRUS-P), the other for targeting which was used to direct the optical channel towards the target (PRUS-Z). The passive locators also worked as a passive IFF (there was active IFF as well). The system had only daylight channel but it was meant to be updated later. The system was armed with 2A38 autocannon and Igla-1 missiles (both for standardization with the WARPAC armies at the time when the development started). It could not fire on the move but just like the night channel this feature was planned to be added later. 
     

    Photo is my own (many more in the linked article). 
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    Scolopax reacted to Cleb in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea   
    Going back a bit to something that Scolopax posted on February the 10th in the General AFV Thread.
     
    This image was posted with a question being asked as to when it was taken

     
    One of the captions on a photo that I have from that event (using machine translators) says something along the lines of "On June 19th, 1997, tank units of the Capital Defense Command conduct a tactical training exercise at the Yongmunsan General Training Center in preparation against any provocation from the enemy."
     
    (Some more photos from this event)
     
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    Scolopax reacted to Alzoc in The Aircraft Carrier Shitstorm Thread   
    And the vision of Naval Group (in charge of the design study).
     
     

     
     
    Edit: More pics from different angles in this thread:
     
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    Scolopax reacted to Cleb in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea   
    K1 test vehicle equipped with a muffler system to reduce sound. This prototype configuration was tested around 2006. 
     

     
    K1s of the Army Armor School using a setup derived from the prototype.
     

     
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    Scolopax got a reaction from Stimpy75 in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    This is the same thinking I have.  I do not claim any real expertise in my opinions though.
     
     
     
    Related to the topic, I didn't realize before that there were two Object 781's produced, with slightly different armament.  One has a turreted MG in place of one of the sponson grenade launchers.
     

     

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    Scolopax reacted to LoooSeR in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    Because there are times when infantry is not nearby and doesn't want to get out of their trenches and run up into close quarters combat.
     
       They are one of main problems. Tank chassis brings all negative costs (logistical, price, maintenance) but BMPT doesn't have an ooomph that require tank chassis to be used in the first place. And add here gap in range and firepower between a tank and BMPT, on top of lack of any other role that BMPT can occupy in situations when BMPT can't reach targets that tanks are working on.
     
       Syria shown pretty well that ability to shoot in X amount of targets in the same time doesn't play any role as main problem is actually seeing your enemies. Main bottleneck for urban fighting for vehicles is spotting exact enemy location, not an inability to fire at them. And rare situations when enemies were firing from places that AFVs couldn't reach could be solved with RCWS with AGL.
     
       This was shown many times, i already covered some of them in this very thread when we discussed BMPT earlier. One of several that i can bring up is when SAA was assaulting Artillery academy during Battle for Aleppo and several tanks and BMPs were parked in very small space, several vehicles were hit in their rear arc by ATGM team firing rockets over a building from apperently roof of another high-rise building at long range. Same ATGM team was firing from the same place on next day, after SAA lost 2 tanks and IIRC BMP in one spot. According to position of vehicles, ATGM team was in reach of their guns, crews couldn't see them. 
     
       As i understand, Soviet BMPTs were born from experience in Afghanistan with it's terrain and type of enemy/their preffered way to do combat. Those BMPTs were more like convoy protection from ambush armored vehicles. Not exactly a frontline vehicle. In those situation detection of enemy isn't a problem, as you already got yourself into their ambush. 
     
       And your description of vehicle moving along the street is something out of WH40K, rather than reality.
     
       Here is another example of how tanks are eating RPGs. This is an old ANNA news video from Deraya combat, they filmed tank getting hit with RPG-29, and same event was filmed with akbars POV.
       3-4 tanks and 2-3 BMP-2s participated in operation and all of them were actively firing in all possible directions with main guns and coax. Didn't helped, T-72 was blown into pieces. This is probably best illustration of what is a main problem for AFVs in fighting with enemy infantry in urban enviroment.  
     
       Another example - tanks driving through streets being filmed by rebels/militants. Tanks are moving directly towards cameramans and doesn't see them (video is from multiply POV, but from same direction) and get into firefight from different direction, then proceed to fire in random directions for the most part. At 7:30 you can see RPG shot into T-72, from the front. A lot of unaimed suppressing fire from vehicles.
       At 11:10 and 21:20 rare example of enemies being very close to AFV and most likely outside of elevation limit of tanks main gun. Still, AFVs have no clue that enemies are there. At 12:20 is why you need an APS. Note how during whole video tanks gunners are very active with turning their tank turrets around, they are actively scanning, not just sitting in one place starring in nothingness.
     
       All those videos have 2 things in common - there is never lack of firepower and cannons to fire in multiply directions and in all videos vehicles show no knowledge of exact positions of enemies, only that in some buildings there was movement spotted before operation started or that everything further than a frontline is under enemy control. If you replace all tanks with BMPTs, result would be a bit more liberal use of suppressing fire.
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    Scolopax got a reaction from Lord_James in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    This is the same thinking I have.  I do not claim any real expertise in my opinions though.
     
     
     
    Related to the topic, I didn't realize before that there were two Object 781's produced, with slightly different armament.  One has a turreted MG in place of one of the sponson grenade launchers.
     

     

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    Scolopax reacted to heretic88 in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    I agree, but not entirely. As you surely know, of the 3 Objekt-781 prototypes, one was different, and had a turret with similar armament to the BMP-3 (2A70+2A72+PKT). Still, this was rejected, and the twin 30mm turret version was selected for service in the army. Sadly I do not know why, but Im sure there were reasons for that. 
    But all in all, both Objekt-781 versions were superior to UVZ's BMPT, especially in terms of firepower. My opinion, is that the whole point of such specialized vehicle is to be able to engage as many targets as possible in urban combat, and in a wide arc around it. The BMPT is not very good in this regard, it can engage 3 targets at the same time, and only one with its main armament. The Objekt-781 can engage 5, (6 for the rejected version!) and it can deal with two totally separate targets with the autocannons. Much harder to lure it into an ambush or trap.
    Just imagine, the vehicle travels along a street, the autocannon turrets can fire at the buildings to the left and right at the same time (even high elevations), the two grenade launchers can do the same, or look for enemies appearing in front, and finally, the rear NSVT turret can watch the rear (obviously this is much less useful, but not a bad thing to have)
    UVZ probably liked the idea of the two autocannons, but they totally failed to understand the reason why they were in separate turrets in the 781. I even dare to say that they failed to understand the whole concept, proof is the export BMPT-72, which is a totally useless miserable piece of junk. An upgraded T-55 has far, far higher combat value than that, in any imaginable situation. 
     

     
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    Scolopax reacted to Cleb in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea   
    K-SAMs of the 1st Air Defense Brigade, Capital Defense Command recently conducted their annual live fire training.

     
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    Scolopax reacted to LoooSeR in Syrian conflict.   
    I see a problem with this story.
     
       Anyway, Muricans in Syria, being stereotypical.

     

     
     
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    Scolopax reacted to Stimpy75 in General artillery, SPGs, MLRS and long range ATGMs thread.   
    new chinese SPH, not much info

     
     
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    Scolopax reacted to LoooSeR in The interesting ship photos/art thread.   
    Pavel Derzhavin, from outside:

     
     
       Some parts from inside:

     
     
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    Scolopax reacted to SH_MM in Britons are in trouble   
    This was a proposal to up-armor the Chieftain using Burlingon (Chobham) armor in the late 1960s. The shape of the turret resulted in really poor armor coverage, hence the idea was abandoned in favor of developing a new variant of the Chieftain with built-in Burlington armor.
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    Scolopax reacted to AndreyKryuchenko in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    MTLB in the city park.
    Made myself a birthday present, bought flash units with a radio synchronizer. Now there will be more photos in the TANK PORN genre.
     
     
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    Scolopax reacted to LoooSeR in US/Iran flirting with quagmire thred.   
    https://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/975930.html
       Yuri Lyamin's short explanation of situation.
     

     

     
     
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    Scolopax reacted to Cleb in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea   
    According to most on the Korean side of the internet, the K21 is resistant to 30mm APDS from the front and 14.5mm AP at the sides and rear.
     
    If this is true or not I don't know but there is footage of one of the ROK BMP-3s firing an unidentified type of AP ammo at a K21 target (https://gfycat.com/PowerlessNaiveCowrie). The 14.5mm AP could also make sense due to the very wide usage of 14.5mm HMGs that the North Koreans use though I haven't seen any sort of solid evidence for me to say with certainty that this protection level is true.
     
    There also has been research done to up the protection levels of the K21s though including additional composite armor blocks (Ceramics and NERA) and net armor though it usually comes at the cost of the amphibious capability the K21 has. 

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    Scolopax reacted to Cleb in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea   
    Some more ROK T-80Us. These screencaps were taken from a video of a training exercise at the Korea Combat Training Center. The T-80Us are being used as OPFOR (North Korean) Armor.

     
     
    During this training you also had K1E1s being used as BLUFOR.

     
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    Scolopax reacted to SH_MM in Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV   
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    Scolopax reacted to Beer in Israeli AFVs   
    Ups
     
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    Scolopax reacted to Valryon in Polish Armoured Vehicles   
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    Scolopax reacted to SH_MM in Modern Tank Destroyers / Gun Carriers   
    It is not an autoloader, but a semi-automatic ammo rack. The ammunition is stored in a separate compartment, the gunner or loader selects the desired type of round, then the mechanism pushed the round into the crew compartment, where the loader takes it. Similar system is also used on Merkava 4.
     


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    Scolopax got a reaction from Lord_James in Turkish touch   
    Was a quip at the general appearance of both vehicles being very similar.
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    Scolopax reacted to Lord_James in Turkish touch   
    The PL-01 continues to evolve, I see 
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    Scolopax reacted to Beer in Get Away, Damnit. (The Camping Thread)   
    Some more.
     
    View from Kadaň monastery hill, north-western Bohemia. Bellow is a small dam on the river Ohře and in the far distance it's Klínovec mountain on the western German border.
     
     
    Seč dam viewed from the clifs of Oheb castle ruins. Eastern Bohemia. 

     
    Zbiroh castle, western Bohemia. The famous Art-Nouveau cycle The Slav Epic of Alfons Mucha was created under that glass-roof. During the WW2 the castle was used as SS headquarters for the Protektorat Böhmen und Mähren. 

     
    Muddy Berounka river after strong rains. Western Bohemia. 

     
    Countryside around Louny town seen from the south, North-Western Bohemia.
      
     
    Three views of the early October morning around Ustí nad Labem city, North-western Bohemia.
     
    The sunrise.

     
    The city and the Labe (Elbe river) somewhere under the mist.

     
    The Labe (Elbe) river somewhere under the mist. 

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