LoooSeR Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 One think - ZTZ-99B does not exist, officially tanks, that were called ZTZ-99A2 or ZTZ-99B are ZTZ-99A (official designation, as i was told). Driver weakspot still there, like on Soviet MBTs. Although, i like UFP modular design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 ZTZ-99A2 I'm almost certain doesn't exist, the vast majority of Chinese experts and netizens I've asked regarding the name say it's basically doesn't exist and it's a western invention. What I genuinely don't know is if Type-99A (as they I've heard there's a regular A and "heavy" A to make things more confusing) or if "heavy" A is actualy designated ZTZ-99B considering I've seen some credible sources that ZTZ-99B does exist to some extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Hard for me to say for sure, but those 99s, paraded recently were "A". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Are you referring to these tanks in particular per chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike E Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 It seems odd to have a ceramic based composite heavily angled like that. IIRC, that lowers their effectiveness and increases the chance that multiple plates will be hit, and shattered. To be honest, I always figured it to be NERA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Yes, those. I was told that their official name is Type-99A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 It seems odd to have a ceramic based composite heavily angled like that. IIRC, that lowers their effectiveness and increases the chance that multiple plates will be hit, and shattered. To be honest, I always figured it to be NERA. Yeah, i also think that it is Chinese modern "take on" NERA concept/design. But, you never know for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 It seems odd to have a ceramic based composite heavily angled like that. IIRC, that lowers their effectiveness and increases the chance that multiple plates will be hit, and shattered. To be honest, I always figured it to be NERA. Are you referring to the Ceramic/NERA on the hull or on the turret front? The setup on the turret front is actually hollow and mostly designed to break in sections after the first hit anyway, It's Ceramics and NERA backed by a layer of HHS behind that which the tiles are mounted to. It's apparently very effective at breaking penetrator heads off and causing the rod to yaw, which significantly hinders it's chance to penetrate the "naked" turret armor behind it, and it's very spaced out to the point HEAT jets also are less likely to dig into the turret. Posted this picture before but, diagram of how it looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike E Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Very interesting, I can see how that would be effective. To answer your question; I was talking about the glacis composition itself. The one with multiple layers of ceramics as you mentioned earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 To be fair, aside from Sapphire based ceramics (which was mentioned in an interview by the chief designer of the 98/99 family himself, sort of odd he'd do that *shrug*), the Type-99's armor composition is riddled with speculation and secrecy on what it's even made out entirely, how it's layed out and how thick, so I can't really say that's what it 100% relies on for it's armor scheme. Even the 3 steel/2 ceramic/composite sandwich it actually uses was only found out about recently. One theory I've heard about said layout is that it's actually very difficult to manufacture the particular type of steel it uses past certain thicknesses (Maraging Grade 350), so using 3 thinner with 2 non steel armored layers over 2 thicker and 1 composite layer may have been needed. Don't quote me on that though. Mike E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Tech of Tanks mentions bonded aluminum/steel laminates and Al/steel/Al. They're supposed to be pretty effective against low velocity threats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimzhangzhang Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Type-99A in production. Khand-e 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimzhangzhang Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Left: the engine of Type-99A, middle: the engine of Type-96 Belesarius and Khand-e 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimzhangzhang Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 The engine of Type-99 prototype and Type-99G. By the way, the one-armed man was the Chief designer of Type-99. Mohamed A, Donward, Khand-e and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I see he was a gunner on a T-72... ... .... Joking aside, cool stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Welcome back ZhangZhang! jimzhangzhang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimzhangzhang Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 He lost his right arm in a mortar accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimzhangzhang Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Welcome back ZhangZhang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I remember him being in a couple interview videos regarding the history of the Type-98/99 family's design, do you if he's done anymore very recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimzhangzhang Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I remember him being in a couple interview videos regarding the history of the Type-98/99 family's design, do you if he's done anymore very recently? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%E7%A5%9D%E6%A6%86%E7%94%9F http://www.google.com.hk/search?tbm=vid&hl=en-HK&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%E7%A5%9D%E6%A6%86%E7%94%9F&oq=%E7%A5%9D%E6%A6%86%E7%94%9F&gs_l=video-hp.12...1681.2025.0.3481.3.3.0.0.0.0.222.222.2-1.1.0....0...1ac.1.34.video-hp..3.0.0.UU7N8R5FHic You can google his name "祝榆生”。 He died last year at age 96. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Oh, I didn't hear about that, that's sad to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted October 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Type-59D - Test of faith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted October 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Somehow I can't picture this having the best turn radius exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 http://military-photos.livejournal.com/520166.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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