TokyoMorose Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, alanch90 said: When you check the interior layout you realize that superstructure is necesary for the crew working space (lots of big screens and stuff to manage all the drones and smart weapons). Still, it weakens the already low protection of the vehicle. Oh, I know *a superstructure* is required for the crew working space, but that poorly thought out thin steel box with basically no sloping (which results in the step) is a sad excuse for the design. At the very least, they could have fitted large composite blocks on the front of the step to at least attempt to provide protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanch90 Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, TokyoMorose said: Oh, I know *a superstructure* is required for the crew working space, but that poorly thought out thin steel box with basically no sloping (which results in the step) is a sad excuse for the design. At the very least, they could have fitted large composite blocks on the front of the step to at least attempt to provide protection. Fully agree, for starters it is based on a tank with no composite armor so protection could not be relevant anyway. However now knowing the background of the company it is clear to me that this vehicle is just a statement to get into the spotlight and get the public talking about them, and in that evidently they succeded. Because its not like the PLA is preparing for a "Grozni scenario". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LoooSeR Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 Quote A magnificent photo report of a talented Chinese photographer under the nickname "Richard Yip" from a dynamic display of armored vehicles at the air show in Zhuhai. Spoiler Scolopax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 Somebody with good photoshop skills could combine those. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scolopax Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 13 hours ago, LoooSeR said: Somebody with good photoshop skills could combine those. Reveal hidden contents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Scolopax said: Reveal hidden contents And? i didn't said that those would be 100% accurate, but would give general idea about size/shape similarities and differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 VT-5 Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Type 85-II used as testbed for APS Zyklon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Why limited aspect protection (turret)? Main cannon? Armor protection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 we have a topic for Chinese vehicles, including MBTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 And the shitposting continues. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 58 minutes ago, Peasant said: Why limited aspect protection (turret)? Main cannon? Armor protection? What are you even asking? All modern tanks have limited protection on the sides compared to the front. It's a simple function of geometry and weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Seriously? Low effort posting much? Wanna be a bit more specific with your question, with actual sentence structure so we know what the fuck you are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Let’s try to be a little nicer and/or forgiving. But if peasant could make the question clearer, that would be welcome. Belesarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Belesarius said: Seriously? Low effort posting much? Wanna be a bit more specific with your question, with actual sentence structure so we know what the fuck you are talking about. My mistake. I forget to write frontal. 2 hours ago, Collimatrix said: What are you even asking? All modern tanks have limited protection on the sides compared to the front. It's a simple function of geometry and weight. I mean frontal, yes, but even frontal arc, Chinese design seems unsuited! Armor array is designed in such a way that either the interior is awful or the weakness is exposed in the frontal 60* arc. I realize Russian design is only frontal 60*, NATO include the sides, but China does not. Frontal array is thick but does not cover wider aspect. Like Russian/Soviet & NATO. 54 minutes ago, Lord_James said: Let’s try to be a little nicer and/or forgiving. But if peasant could make the question clearer, that would be welcome. Thanks for kindness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Lord_James said: Let’s try to be a little nicer and/or forgiving. But if peasant could make the question clearer, that would be welcome. Unlikely. SH is a Darwinian environment when it comes to low effort posting. Link or die. Lord_James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 VT-4s of Thai Army. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 PLA officials during press event told that Type 15 light tank was adopted to service. Now name of this vehicle is officialy confirmed - Type 15. https://dambiev.livejournal.com/1425689.html Lord_James and Collimatrix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 VT-5 and people for comparison Karamazov 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Can somebody translate if this 1000 mm in RHA is against HEAT or APFSDS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karamazov Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 with Google 35 minutes ago, LoooSeR said: Can somebody translate if this 1000 mm in RHA is against HEAT or APFSDS? "Central Wars®, the tank battalion deputy battalion, Jia Yuanyou have reached 1000 milli RIXE" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konev Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 I thought the “都” in the text means both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molota_477 Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 5 hours ago, LoooSeR said: Can somebody translate if this 1000 mm in RHA is against HEAT or APFSDS? He said that both KE and CE protection level have exceed 1000mm RHA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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