LoooSeR Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 HIFV based on VT-4 chassis Spoiler Clan_Ghost_Bear, Scolopax and Alzoc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan_Ghost_Bear Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 That's an interesting design choice for the 50 cal placement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xlucine Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 I like it, it looks like they're on an arm so they can swing round and fire forwards without increasing the width of the vehicle or getting in the way of the turret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 45 minutes ago, Clan_Ghost_Bear said: That's an interesting design choice for the 50 cal placement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 19 hours ago, LoooSeR said: HIFV based on VT-4 chassis Reveal hidden contents How do the dismounts enter and exit? It doesn’t look like it has front, side, or rear doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scolopax Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Lord_James said: How do the dismounts enter and exit? It doesn’t look like it has front, side, or rear doors. I'd assume the rear, but it doesn't seem possible with that block-like object they have fixed there. That last image shows it with grating on the side, so I don't know what it's supposed to be. I'm also unsure about the engine placement as well. There's plenty of room for it up front, but there's grills and stuff in the back like the BMP-3 has it's engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, Scolopax said: /.../ I'm also unsure about the engine placement as well. There's plenty of room for it up front, but there's grills and stuff in the back like the BMP-3 has it's engine. For example Kurganets have grills in the rear and engine in the front, this is done due to thermal signature reduction measures. Those grills in the back could be a part of cooling system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scolopax Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 hours ago, LoooSeR said: For example Kurganets have grills in the rear and engine in the front, this is done due to thermal signature reduction measures. Those grills in the back could be a part of cooling system. This seems like a good possible explanation of it. Edit: It does look like the drive wheels are located in the front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 Rear part of Chinese HIFV Spoiler Clan_Ghost_Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 Training of drivers. Lord_James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylancer-3441 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 On 2/18/2019 at 12:50 AM, LoooSeR said: HIFV based on VT-4 chassis 3 hours ago, LoooSeR said: Rear part of Chinese HIFV those photos, and several others, could be downloaded at 12Mpix resolution from original posts in Weibo there https://www.weibo.com/2818916890/Hhiq6BO1a and there https://www.weibo.com/2818916890/Hh8pHy3gb by manually replacing small part of link to each image - with this https://wx1.sinaimg.cn/mw690/a805421agy1g0b3qqcwlvj23342bknpe.jpg becoming this https://wx1.sinaimg.cn/large/a805421agy1g0b3qqcwlvj23342bknpe.jpg another photo of this model, from a different angle: LoooSeR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 hours ago, LoooSeR said: Rear part of Chinese HIFV Reveal hidden contents Well, that looks like a ramp past that block (I’m guessing that block might be an APU? Cause of the fan), and the block is attached to the levers that open the ramp. So does that block move down into the ground with the ramp when it opens, or up onto the roof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 Venezuela Spoiler Stimpy75, Clan_Ghost_Bear and Lord_James 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Was posted on otvaga by @Met749 Does anybody here know what this is? I see it for the first time as well. @Akula_941? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scolopax Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, LoooSeR said: Was posted on otvaga by @Met749 Does anybody here know what this is? I see it for the first time as well. @Akula_941? It appears to be a Type 69 with maybe add-on composite armor. No idea outside of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karamazov Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, Scolopax said: It appears to be a Type 69 with maybe add-on composite armor. No idea outside of that. This is 59, i think. And If you believe this source http://militarium.net/tag/chinese-tank/ this is Type-59-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scolopax Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 55 minutes ago, Karamazov said: This is 59, i think. And If you believe this source http://militarium.net/tag/chinese-tank/ this is Type-59-1 Cool, I will go with that then. The presence of the side skirts, turret storage baskets, and the laser rangefinder made me lean towards Type 69. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karamazov Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Scolopax said: The presence of the side skirts, turret storage baskets, and the laser rangefinder made me lean towards Type 69. The same, but it could be installed during the upgrade. By this I look at the chassis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 On 3/17/2019 at 6:11 AM, LoooSeR said: Was posted on otvaga by @Met749 Does anybody here know what this is? I see it for the first time as well. @Akula_941? just an improved protection Type-59-1 prototype, nothing too fancy,what they are researching are likely used on Type-69-2A Laviduce, Zyklon and LoooSeR 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Yan Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 My contribution to this thread: Glacis armor of the ZTZ-99 generations Prototype/Project 9910/ZTZ-98: - 220mm thickness + 45mm spall liner - 30mm RHA + 35mm glass textolite + 40mm HHS + 35mm glass textolite + 80mm RHA - it offers 500mm RHA protection - lower glacis: 50mm ballistic polymer panel or steel entrench blade + 80mm RHA Phase 1 production: - increase to 260mm thickness + 45mm spall liner - a 2nd 40mm HHS plate was added - plus the 22 add-on armor tiles in 3 different sizes on the glacis - it offers 600mm RHA protection + the add-on armor tiles Phase 2 production: - probably replaced the glass textolite layers with ceramic Phase 3 production (ZTZ-99A): - completely new armor - it looks like the base armor had increased to 300mm + 45mm spall liner - 17 add-on armor tiles in 2 different size alanch90 and Laviduce 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 57 minutes ago, Timothy Yan said: My contribution to this thread: Glacis armor of the ZTZ-99 generations Prototype/Project 9910/ZTZ-98: - 220mm thickness + 45mm spall liner - 30mm RHA + 35mm glass textolite + 40mm HHS + 35mm glass textolite + 80mm RHA - it offers 500mm RHA protection - lower glacis: 50mm ballistic polymer panel or steel entrench blade + 80mm RHA Phase 1 production: - increase to 260mm thickness + 45mm spall liner - a 2nd 40mm HHS plate was added - plus the 22 add-on armor tiles in 3 different sizes on the glacis - it offers 600mm RHA protection + the add-on armor tiles Phase 2 production: - probably replaced the glass textolite layers with ceramic Phase 3 production (ZTZ-99A): - completely new armor - it looks like the base armor had increased to 300mm + 45mm spall liner - 17 add-on armor tiles in 2 different size These numbers come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Yan Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 from interviews of all four designers from various media sources, the Type 98 MBT book published in 2002, and other open source info. Ramlaen and Laviduce 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Yan Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 No ERA on the Type 99.....it's 30mm RHA + 20mm of sapphire ceramic on heavy duty bracket (probably 5-10mm thick steel) on the turret side (+ 450mm air gap + 80mm RHA + 45mm spall liner). The front tiles are probably twice as thick with more ceramic layers. They will probably start using graphene ceramic when they have enough production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met749 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 You mean turret or hull?? What is on the pic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_MM Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 There is ERA on the Type 96G and Type 99, this is confirmed by Norinco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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