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   ABU DHABI, 21 Feb - RIA Novosti. State tests of new guided shells Krasnopol-M2, as well as guided mines Gran' for the Armed Forces will end in 2021, the press service of the Kalashnikov concern told RIA Novosti on the eve of the IDEX-2021 international arms exhibition, which opens on Sunday in the capital of the UAE.


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7 hours ago, Lord_James said:

Strange that the autoloader and gun breach are open to the outside; ice and sand aren’t going to mess with its operation? 

   They will, but i suspect there should be pretty bad weather condition for that, at least when we speak about ice. I would prefer to have at least some sheet metal cover over that part.

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   TsAMTO, February 25. The Ruselectronics holding of the Rostec State Corporation has begun serial deliveries of the "Zavet" automated control systems for anti-tank formations. One of the elements of the Covenant - the command and observation vehicle (CMV) of the anti-tank battalion commander - is presented at the Ruselectronics stand at the IDEX-2021 international exhibition in Abu Dhabi.

   The complex provides target designation to anti-tank formations and makes it possible to organize the repulsion of an attack by enemy armored vehicles. The command and observation vehicle presented in Abu Dhabi with the help of an optical-electronic reconnaissance system and an external radar detects targets at a distance of up to 7000 m and their recognition at a distance of up to 5000 m. After determining the coordinates and processing the data, the system performs automatic target distribution.

   All information is brought to the enemy's means of destruction in a time mode close to real. Reception and transmission of messages to subordinate and higher control points is carried out via radio and wire communication channels. The capabilities of the product allow the exchange of information over a distance of up to 100 km.

   Automated control systems significantly increase the effectiveness of various types of weapons. The technical solutions implemented in the complex provide continuous control of anti-tank formations, including due to the possibility of reconfiguring the control system and transferring the functions of failed control points to subordinate or higher authorities.

   As part of Ruselectronics, the production of the Zavet complex is carried out by NPP Rubin.



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Indonesia bought a licence to locally produce RM-70 Vampire with Excalibur (after importing RM-70 Vampires and support vehicles since 2016). Vampire is a modernised variant of the original RM-70 on a new chassis. As everyboy knows RM-70 is basically an armoured Grad with two salvos instead of one carried by the launcher.    


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   People on otvaga found this:


("Article in the proceedings of the conference, Year of publication: 2020" so it appears to be fresh-ish)



   It is advisable to further develop the ATGM system in the direction of creating a single infantry carried ATGM, ensuring the defeat of all modern and promising MBTs (including the mounted BDZ-1 and the built-in BDZ-2 [ERA types]), a tank from above, of the "Effect" type, and a single self-propelled ATGM system, of the "Baikal" type ("Klevok"), for firing from closed firing positions, maximally unified with a promising helicopter complex.

   So names to look for are Baikal and Effect. Helicopter complex is possibly LMUR/Izdelie 305.


and this slide about ways of improvement of AT weapons, it adds to whole picture:



   Right column speaks about creation of unified all-weather, day and night ATGM systems using F&F named "Baikal" on regiment level and company/battalion level named "Effect".


   Regarding Baikal there is this slide:


   Vertical launch, top attack, 15 km range.


   It appears there are R&Ds for infantry carried top attack F&F ATGM (code of R&D "Effect") and ground launched top attack F&F ATGM for vehicles (self-propelled ATGM launcher vehicle with vertical missile launch) code "Baikal".


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US Army nears choosing first battalion for ERCA


WASHINGTON — The U.S. Army is nearing the selection of an existing Field Artillery Battalion that will get the first set of the Extended Range Cannon Artillery (ERCA) system, according to Brig. Gen. John Rafferty, who is in charge of the service’s Long-Range Precision Fires modernization efforts.

Fielding will take place in 2023, but the Army will have to announce the unit with enough time to carry out a year-long operational assessment, he said at the Association of the U.S. Army’s Global Force Next virtual event on March 16.

At the same time, the Army is synchronizing the delivery of ammunition to include propellant and course-correcting fuses for the operational assessment, Rafferty said.

The assessment will be critical for working through “the operational concept for how we fight with general support artillery fires and a Division,” he said.

The service will also take real-time soldier feedback to the engineers who are working on the next Battalion set of ERCA systems.


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   The newest self-propelled artillery gun 2S43 "Malva" will enter the state testing stage next year, 2022. This was reported by RIA Novosti with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex.    According to the source, in 2021, the prototype of the SPG will undergo acceptance tests, during which the compliance of the weapon with the requirements of the technical task will be confirmed. State trials are scheduled for 2022.



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45 minutes ago, barbaria said:

Nice display of hospital bombing you got there. Only in Russia I guess...

1) If enemy is located in hospital, he don't get different threatment from when he is in somebody's house, in somebody's car and so on.

2) US forces shelled a hospital in Iraq with WPh shells during Mosul battle, so not "only in Russia".

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