Anti-air thread: Everything that goes up must come down, and we'll help you go down

[Alzoc]

Aster test fire on the CdG and the Chevalier Paul :

 

The AAW frigate, which is usually responsible for the aera defence of the GAN, fired an Aster 30 while it's main radar was jammed and the carrier simply fired an Aster 15 used as the last line self defence.

[molnibalage]

Stealth vs radars, with numbers not with vague values.

 

[Ramlaen]

 

[Scolopax]

Huh, I did not realize Coyote was anti-drone in function.

[molnibalage]

Premier tomorrow.

 

[LoooSeR]

FK-3000 aka Pantsir from Chinese companies. Note mini-missiles. 

 

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[LoooSeR]

LWCLU for Javelin used to launch Stingers

 

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[Żółć]

The Polish Armaments Group managed to win a Norwegian tender for the delivery of MANPADS, making Norway the first user of the "Piorun" system that had not previously used Groms or other MANPADS of Soviet provenance

 

[LoooSeR]

   Wagner's Pantsir-S1 (camo suggest that it was used somewhere else earlier)

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   On account of the calculation of 57 downed enemy aircraft, including the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drone, which they caught in the summer near the Uglegorsk thermal power plant. There are 49 stars on board, 8 more stars are not enough time to apply. The work intensity is high.

   Judging by the color, this "Pantsir" was brought from one of the foreign campaigns of PMCs.

 

 

[mr.T]

Maxim machine guns  1940 model on the roof of one of the residential high-rises in Kiev. Meant for defense against Shaheds 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[LoooSeR]

Chinese HQ-11 or H-11 (both names are in circulation) AA system. 

 

https://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/1111906.html

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   This Chinese air defense system was first shown at an exhibition in Zhuhai in November 2022. The name plate indicated "红-11" (Hong-11 \ H-11), instead of the usual "红旗" (HongQi \ HQ , which means "Red Banner" in translation), but the Chinese media, including state-owned CCTV, Global Times, etc., still call it "红旗-11" (HQ-11), so I will call it that.

   This complex was created explicitly in the development of the ideas of the HQ-6A anti-aircraft missile and artillery system, which has long been in service with the PLA, which consists of HQ-64 short-range air defense systems and 30-mm seven-barrel artillery mounts LD-2000 connected into a single system.

   In turn, the new HQ-11 also consists of launchers connected into a single system of some new short-range anti-aircraft missiles and 30-mm eleven-barrel artillery mounts LD-3000. The performance characteristics of the HQ-11 were not reported, it was only indicated that this was a short-range air defense system that could hit air-to-surface missiles, cruise missiles, guided bombs, and various aircraft.

 

 

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   Ruselectronics holding, part of the Rostec Corporation, has completed work on the Serp-VS5 anti-drone system capable of suppressing drone control at a distance of up to 5 km.

   

   The complex operates 360 ° on 5 frequency bands - from 900 MHz to 5.8 GHz and allows you to "jam" several channels at the same time. Thanks to this, the device can protect the territory from attacks by several UAVs at once, including those flying from different directions. The equipment suppresses the drone control channel, breaks communication with the operator, disables navigation equipment, disorients the aircraft in space, disrupting the flight mission.

 

   The system suppresses GPS, GLONASS, Beidou signals (in the L1, L2, L5 bands), and also breaks drone control over Wi-Fi.

 

 

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[Ramlaen]

From the FY24 budget request

"FY 2024 funding in the amount of $400.697 million procures 22 M-SHORAD Inc 1 dual Stinger Vehicle Universal Launcher (SVUL) configuration systems to complete the DR. Funding also procures 72 SVULs to retrofit single SVUL configuration systems, Initial Spares, Engineering Services, Contractor Logistics Support (CLS), and Integrated Logistics Support (ILS)"

SHORAD Strykers are swapping the unused Hellfire rack for a second Stinger pod.

[LoooSeR]

PLA Type 625 wheeled SHORAD

 

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[Alzoc]

They finally paired the Rapidfire with short-range missiles and a surveillance radar :

 

 

The mockup is supposed to represent the LMM using Starstreak canisters (as they are interchangeable). It will also have the option to mount Mistrals. The LMM/Starstreak option make for a cheap solution as they are using simple laser guidance.

[LoooSeR]

Looks like attempt at SHORAD on BTR-80 chassis with 2 23 mm autocannons (same as on Shilka).

 

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[Alzoc]

Anti-UAV UGV by Rheinmetall :

 

Honestly not convinced by this solution :

• Won't be able to follow a mechanized group because it's based on a large UGV (which limits speed and autonomy),
• Very limited practical range (inert 7,62 mm sprayed with fairly low accuracy),
• Limited ammo supply (2xM134 miniguns comes between 4000 to 12 000 rds/s),
• Limited elevation and cannot fire on it's rear (ammo belts are in the way).

It might have it's uses for infantry support when assaulting or defending a fortified position (trenches, building) but that's about it.

The surveillance and designation vehicle it comes with is more interesting with it's onboard radar and optronic ball in a compact package.

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5 hours ago, Alzoc said:

Anti-UAV UGV by Rheinmetall :

 

Honestly not convinced by this solution :

• Won't be able to follow a mechanized group because it's based on a large UGV (which limits speed and autonomy),
• Very limited practical range (inert 7,62 mm sprayed with fairly low accuracy),
• Limited ammo supply (2xM134 miniguns comes between 4000 to 12 000 rds/s),
• Limited elevation and cannot fire on it's rear (ammo belts are in the way).

It might have it's uses for infantry support when assaulting or defending a fortified position (trenches, building) but that's about it.

The surveillance and designation vehicle it comes with is more interesting with it's onboard radar and optronic ball in a compact package.

 

Yeah, this is far from being optimal vehicle to deal with small UAVs and drones. Its like those people don't follow Ukrainian conflict closely. This thing is going to be spotted and shelled before it will be able to get into effective range of some of drones that are used in current war (like Matrice 30T).