Khand-e Posted December 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 PKM lightest 7.62x5Xmm GPMG of all years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Fight Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Belt-fed G11 guys how about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 IIRC, the HK caseless LMG project was box mag fed. Traditional steel links would probably be a bad match for caseless rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 The HK21 and PKM (each without their bipods) would be interesting to weigh. Or course in typical HK fashion they went with solid bar-stock bipod legs (well, not really, but look at the damn thing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I.... Alex, somebody, help...https://www.full30.com/video/55706c01c15ef0aeef3b9b4c8e0f025b?utm_source=system&utm_medium=email&utm_content=inrange&utm_campaign=subscribersThey shot two five round groups and got 3" of spread (measured in the most half-assed way I've ever seen) with match ammo at 100m. And they are doing that bullshit of "dropping fliers", and getting "good consistency". COME ON. Ian, Karl, what the heck, guys? Not you, too! Shilling for Kel-Tec, that's like... Fuck, mate.The rifle may be good, it may be bad, I dunno, but don't try to sell me a 3 MOA max gun as a target rifle! Also, note that in a previous video they tried to sell THE EXACT SAME PERFORMANCE from M855 as "terrible" and "not worth your time". But somehow Kel-Tec's rifle shooting that poorly gets a pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 To be clear, the RDB is one of the most interesting guns to come on the market in a while. Unfortunately... It's a Kel-Tec. I am eternally rooting for them to get their act together, but it's Kel-Tec.A good design? Yes. I am impressed. But we just know how these things go. Now, I hope that the RDB leads in some way or another to bullpups gaining more of a foothold. I think most of the obstacles facing bullpups are are of a training and familiarity nature, and I like the advantages that bullpups provide.Having said that... Kel-Tec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I finished their hour-long review, and they are not really shilling for Kel-Tec, but the accuracy test was still really strange. Anyway, good mud test, glad InRange did that kind of thing. Calling it "phenomenal" after that mud test is a bit strange, too. P.S. Ian, please stop calling everything that's a rotating bolt design that is not an AR-15 an "AR-18". Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Find me one for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Find me one for sale. One what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 A Kel Tec, I'm guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Fight Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Are they still planning on releasing that M43 wooden thing they were showing off way back? Also, I always get the feeling that I have to read Ian's body language more than listen to his words about evaluating gun performance. I've seen some contradictions between what he's said about weapon recoil, and what it looks like he's experienced, for example. It could just be he's had different relative views for this sort of thing or doesn't wish to offend a gun's owner or something, but that MOA for the RFB is kind of upsetting. I'm open to being 100% wrong, though, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Very cool. I remember reading about a 7.62x43 round that was developed around the same time for use in Soviet assault rifles. We're any select fire rifles ever developed in this caliber? Just asked Max about it, he will be able to get more info for me later, but it was apparently developed as a response to 7.62 NATO, but determined to be too powerful. LostCosmonaut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 "Testing of assault rifles for Ratnik will be continued to 2016 in 4 military districts." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tied Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Tied Operating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronezhilet Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Nathaniel/Alex, do you know whether Katie A was drunk or not when she wrote this 'article'? Wtf is up with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Sounds like she struggled to meet the new 200-word minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 "All I want to do is post a link and a paragraph to get paid. Why do you have to make it so haaaaaaad". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 So... this Run and Gun is going to suck balls. Belesarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Finally got that Rolling Block you always wanted, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Finally. It was hard to track one down that was both nice and in a caliber that is readily available (7mm). Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 So we gonna try and blow that one up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Yes. The video revenue from the run and gun and the destruction test should be enough for a replacement gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Oh cool, when are you doing that? I'll try to come out for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 That is a good question. I will need to figure that one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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