Toxn Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 This is a thread for firearms tech between the 13th and 20th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 To start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwhmk-4bDS4 Yeah... there's going to be a lot of capandball posts, methinks. Belesarius and Vanagandr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 To start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwhmk-4bDS4 Yeah... there's going to be a lot of capandball posts, methinks. Interesting results applying modern testing methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 The Austro-Hungarian Empire seems to have been a breeding ground for weird firearm actions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvLqPYBvvoU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 The Austro-Hungarian Empire seems to have been a breeding ground for incredible amounts of innovation FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 FIFY Both true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Blunderbusses (with assorted stuff at the end): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jh38eMoLPg I occasionally wonder if one good reason for having the bell end to a blunderbuss is that it makes loading loose powder and shot easier. It is essentially a funnel at the end of the barrel, after all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meplat Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Blunderbusses (with assorted stuff at the end): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jh38eMoLPg I occasionally wonder if one good reason for having the bell end to a blunderbuss is that it makes loading loose powder and shot easier. It is essentially a funnel at the end of the barrel, after all... It was. Gravel, etc was a common load for these. The belled muzzle facilitated quick and easy reloading. I've been told that "glass" was a favorite load for a time. Let that soak for a bit. Belesarius and Toxn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 It was. Gravel, etc was a common load for these. The belled muzzle facilitated quick and easy reloading. I've been told that "glass" was a favorite load for a time. Let that soak for a bit. It actually sounds perfect - the sharp edges would cut through clothing, but the low density would prevent fatal wounds. Great if your plan is to hurt rather than kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 'Modern' caplocks https://homemadeguns.wordpress.com/2015/05/07/improvised-percussion-lock-musket-russia/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meplat Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 It actually sounds perfect - the sharp edges would cut through clothing, but the low density would prevent fatal wounds. Great if your plan is to hurt rather than kill. The range (and era) those were commonly used, it'd damn sure be fatal, just not immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Interestingly, it seems as if this is one of the few shotgun loads which taofledermaus hasn't tested...Edit: ...and the only direct reference I can find to the concept is on stormfront... Edit 2: ...so the only really solid evidence we have to go on here is the freaking Mythbusters. Their conclusion seems to be what I'd expect: lots of small shards of glass = lots of superficial cuts. Nasty, but not fatal barring an infection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meplat Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 I'll have to dig, and maybe ask a friend, but I've seen what "fine shot" does. At "household range" it does not "pepper", it macerates. I've even seen examples of people killed by the wadding from shotshells. So a handfull of glass at just under supersonic at short range, is going to thoroughly fuck your day. Toxn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashbotUS Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Not exactly "technical" details but here are some photos I snapped of early early firearms from the armory museum at the Doges Palace in Venice. Collimatrix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 "Guns made steel armor obsolete gais!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 "Guns made steel armor obsolete gais!" "It's more complex than that" is nearly always the correct response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Bele and I on TS were talking about the maximum potential of black powder as a propellant (came from him talking about people making black powder cannons). So, the question is, has anyone yet made a black powder light gas gun? Edit: or a black powder Voitenko compressor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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