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1 hour ago, Jeeps_Guns_Tanks said:

 

 

It can't be true, it's just too good to be true. We all know Maxine is both stupid, a crook and a race-pimp, but she can't be that stupid right?

This is the same person who kept ranting about Russia invading Korea in an interview.

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8 minutes ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

Is it normal for a four star general to declare the President of the United State to be a security risk?

 

 

 

Not really. Normally one would expect a more reasoned, and mature response from a four star general. But then again, this guy was part of the Clinton Administration once upon a time.

 

So the retired general is bashing Trump over his response to the alleged Russian nerve agent attack in Great Britain.

 

Per CNN.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/15/politics/donald-trump-russia-nerve-agent-attack/index.html

 

"It looks like it," Trump said of whether Russia was behind the attack. "I spoke with the Prime Minister and we are in deep discussions. A very sad situation."

 

He added: "It certainly looks like the Russians were behind it. Something that should never, ever happen, and we are taking it very seriously, as I think are many others."

 

Per CBS

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-britain-russia-novichok-nerve-agent-attack-ex-spy-sergei-skripal/

 

The leaders of the United States, France, Germany and Britain have issued a joint statement blaming Russia for the nerve agent attack on former spy Sergei Skripal in the English city of Salisbury. In a rare joint statement, President Donald Trump, President Emmanual Macron, Chancellor Angela Merkel and Prime Minister Theresa May said Thursday there was "no plausible alternative explanation" to Russian responsibility in the March 4 attack in England.

 

And the Joint Statement from said countries.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/salisbury-attack-joint-statement-from-the-leaders-of-france-germany-the-united-states-and-the-united-kingdom

 

Trump's US Ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, condemned the attack.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/14/politics/nikki-haley-russia-spy-poisoning/index.html

 

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I'm not sure what the retired general is expecting President Trump to do at this stage of the game when UK police haven't even confirmed who was responsible for the attack. Or at least they have released that info to the public. And it's not like Trump hasn't thumbed his nose at the Russkies multiple times already in the past year and two months.

 

Trump knocked out 1/4 of the Syrian Air Force over allegation that the Assad regime used nerve gas on rebels.

A few weeks ago, the US military rained hellfire and destruction on a bunch of Russian mercs and their Syrian Army pals after they got a bit pushy around some of Special Forces and the valiant freedom fighters we're assisting there.

Trump has gone against Russian wishes by establishing and embassy in Jerusalem.

Trump has gone against Russian wishes by taking apart the Iran Deal.

Trump has gone against Russian wishes by talking tough to North Korea's dictator.

Trump has imposed sanctions against several Russian oligarchs over election meddling and cyber attacks.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/politics/trump-russia-sanctions.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=156300863A1A21266F6E16F56812A0B6&gwt=pay

 

But of course General Barry mcaffrey is right and Trump is totes in Putin's pocket.

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22 minutes ago, Donward said:

 

Not really. Normally one would expect a more reasoned, and mature response from a four star general. But then again, this guy was part of the Clinton Administration once upon a time.

 

 

 

Normally, one would expect to see some reason and maturity from the president, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards either.

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You know what? Here's what I don't get about the American left. In North Korea we're dealing with a tinpot dictator with a woefully out-of-date and antiquated 1970s era military who may or may not have developed 1, 5, maybe 15  atomic bombs that aren't much more powerful than the ones we dropped on Japan (roughly speaking) and which aren't even deployable yet. So President Trump takes a hard line with the North Korean dictator, talks tough, throws down a few social media shitpoasts, and the entire American Left in the political realm, media, academia lose their collective minds, barking and shitting themselves like a Pavlovian experiment on dogs.

 

Oh noes! Trump is a war monger! He's going to get us into a nuclear war with North Korea. What will the Chinese say? What will the Russians say? Oh noes, the Chinese and Russians issued STERN warnings over not acting unilaterally against this whacked out tinpot hermit who has so many sanctions against his country has to import porn on the black market from Singapore so he can jerk off to something each night.

 

Counterpose this with the response from the White House against Russia which has been measured, but incrementally tougher, but still respectful because the last time I checked, Russia has the largest God damn nuclear weapons arsenal in the world at 7,000 

 

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat

 

Of those, something like 1,500 are still operational with 800 deployed. 

 

http://www.nti.org/learn/countries/russia/nuclear/

 

Those aren't Cold War numbers, but still enough to wipeout - what - 100 million? 200 million people? I guess maybe the President should have a somewhat measured and nuanced response when dealing with another nuclear power which also has a sizable - albeit still obsolete - conventional military. 

 

What does General mcaffrey want President Trump to do? Fly a B-52 to Russia and ride a nuke onto the Kremlin himself?

 

:ridethebomb:

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1 minute ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

 

 

Normally, one would expect to see some reason and maturity from the president, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards either.

 

What does the General expect President Trump to do? Start World War 3 over it?

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