Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Hillary just looked like she was going to have the moderator arkencided for bringing up her broken promise. Sturgeon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I get to look forward to the replay then. Work sucks. But it's good to get lots of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 ShamefurDispray and Ramlaen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-rJiPIqGhg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShamefurDispray Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 wow that was almost like my summer sales job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 BPS draws some interesting lines: I always got the impression BPS was funded by someone, but he could also be home-grown. I do know he got himself sucked in to the whole Cuntdid scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Also, I am very close to changing my prediction for this November to a decisive but modest Hillary victory.The reason being that I suspect the usual voter fraud machines will be put into overdrive this cycle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 538 article on the debate. Start at the bottom and scroll up for chronological order. http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/third-presidential-debate-election-2016/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApplesauceBandit Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Also, I am very close to changing my prediction for this November to a decisive but modest Hillary victory. The reason being that I suspect the usual voter fraud machines will be put into overdrive this cycle... Continuing with this subject While this is Diebold (now known as Premier) and not Smartmatic, it's still interesting. It's worth noting that I've seen some people tie Premier to the Hillary campaign as well, though I'd have to go looking again to see what exactly the claims were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Quote from that article that I found interesting. "But a very quick thought or two. If it weren’t for “such a nasty woman” and Trump refusing to commit to respecting the election results, maybe you could call it a draw. I don’t think so, because I thought Clinton was more consistent from start to finish. But maybe? I’m reluctant to conclude very much until I see how voters react. But the thing is, even a draw would be a bad outcome for Trump, who is 7 points behind Clinton and has few remaining opportunities to catch up. I don’t know that Trump is necessarily going to fall further in the polls, because he’s fallen pretty far already and he gave his 35 percent base some things to be energized about tonight. But this wasn’t the performance he needed. And “such a nasty woman” and electoral integrity are, at a minimum, going to be major news stories for the next few days, and not ones that will redound to Trump’s benefit. He’s running out of ways to win this election, apart from a major polling error.:" SergeantMatt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 http://www.cato.org/blog/trump-derangement-syndrome CATO institute doesn't like Trump apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApplesauceBandit Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/788719592600375301 https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/788720894516551680 Remembered where I found the alleged Hillary links with Premise/Diebold. Premise is not only a big owner of electronic voting machines, but wikileaks posted on their twitter a reddit thread that suggests the pedo claim they're trying to get Assange for is a fabrication by Premise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 T___A 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 @LindseyGrahamSC: If Trump loses, "it will not be because the system is 'rigged' but because he failed as a candidate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 The notely liberal bastion Brietbart thinks Shillary won the debate. http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/19/poll-won-third-presidential-debate/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 NPR Fact check of the debate. http://www.npr.org/2016/10/19/498293478/fact-check-trump-and-clinton-s-final-presidential-debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 http://www.snopes.com/george-soros-controls-smartmatic-voting-machines-in-16-states/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 I won't even think about clicking on a Brietbart link. Hence the holding of the nose when I posted the Brietbart link earlier. They have about the credibility of KOS, but to the right. I wouldn't cite either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 http://www.snopes.com/george-soros-controls-smartmatic-voting-machines-in-16-states/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social Please stop citing Snopes. They have almost as many problems as PolitiFact. Let's all agree that any site that claims to be the arbiter of truth is not really worth trusting, hmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 I won't even think about clicking on a Brietbart link. Nobody here gives a shit about your intellectual purity. It contains WikiLeaks stuff, there's no reason for the see no evil BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 You tell me to stop citing Snopes, then object when I don't want to click on a fucking Brietbart link? Fuck off. I'm done. I'll talk to you after this shit is done. Donward 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 I don't generally cite Breitbart myself save when I can't find the info elsewhere. Plus I'm sooooo afraid of being called Alt-Rite when I do so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 I just read articles from The American Conservative, Reason, The Intercept, & Jacobin. Even though I might disagree with the views expressed, they are usually well articulated and decently cited. Though you do get some really terrible articles every once in a while. Every now and again I'll read something in the WaPo, Foreign Policy, National Review, or even the NYT, but I try to stay away esp from writes/journos that I know are BS artists. I try to stay away from what I view as clickbait sites like Vox/HuffPo/Salon/Buzzfeed/etc on the left and Breitbart/Drudge/Gateway/etc on the right. There is just so much trash that any reputable story they have is probably so covered in metaphorical shit making determining what is true and what isn't impossible. Toxn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 At your request Nate, I've avoided doing the back and forth with citations. We all agreed that wouldn't be productive. I'm not going to ask you to believe a cite from Daily KOS, please don't ask me to believe a fucking thing that Brietbart posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 You tell me to stop citing Snopes, then object when I don't want to click on a fucking Brietbart link? Fuck off. I'm done. I'll talk to you after this shit is done. There are lots of sites that claim to be the arbiters of "fact". Snopes is one. It's great for debunking chain emails, but it's considerably less useful for political stuff, for the same reason as PolitiFact. Ultimately, citing a source that just tells you what's "fact" isn't very helpful in political discussions like this (and we all know why). This, by the way, goes for right-wing/libertarian/communist/whatever "fact" sites, too. I am not trying to censor Snopes from this site, I am trying to discourage bombaring threads with "fact checking" websites because that is a surefire way to start arguments that we've so far avoided. As an aside, most fact-checking websites are utter shite, but that alone isn't why I'm discouraging them (we deal with shit sources elsewhere on the board just fine). At your request Nate, I've avoided doing the back and forth with citations. We all agreed that wouldn't be productive. I'm not going to ask you to believe a cite from Daily KOS, please don't ask me to believe a fucking thing that Brietbart posts. I didn't ever ask you to believe anything Breitbart posts (I don't). I chided you on televising your intellectual purity by hollering about how you're too righteous to even click the link. You don't even have to click the link, Bele, just don't be a fag about it. The cherry on top here is that you're getting hot and bothered about nothing; the Breitbart article was an extremely straightforward dump of the latest WikiLeaks releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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