That’s Suspicious Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Sturgeon said: I think that was a joke, mate. I think mine was a joke too mate.............. you know, like rubbing in all the M1's destroyed in comparison to other 3rd gen MBT's... Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Just now, AMX-56 Leclerc said: I think mine was a joke too mate.............. you know, like rubbing in all the M1's destroyed in comparison to other 3rd gen MBT's... OK WELL I COUNT A GOOD JOKE AS ONE FALLING EXACTLY WITHIN MY THRESHOLD TO PERCEIVE IT AS SUCH, OK? That’s Suspicious and Donward 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 But I got it though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That’s Suspicious Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sturgeon said: OK WELL I COUNT A GOOD JOKE AS ONE FALLING EXACTLY WITHIN MY THRESHOLD TO PERCEIVE IT AS SUCH, OK? I'm thoroughly disappointed Sturgeon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Just now, AMX-56 Leclerc said: I'm thoroughly disappointed Sturgeon... No! Everybody likes you! They'll kick me off my own forum! I'll be just like Damien! NOOOOOO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That’s Suspicious Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Sturgeon said: No! Everybody likes you! They'll kick me off my own forum! I'll be just like Damien! NOOOOOO! I'm beginning to think you are Damian to not get a joke like that... WHAT DID YOU DO TO THE OLD STURGEON DAMMIT!!! Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 6:01 PM, Damian said: It does not matter where the tank is hit, if the projectile gets inside, if there is no ammo inside crew compartment, there is no ignition of ammo, and crew members are only injured but alive in worst case scenario. In case of direct hit in to ammo storage, well ammo storage blows up, but again crew is safe, and probably tank can be repaired. Now let's take a tank with ammo storage in crew compartment that is not isolated, if the crew compartment is penetrated by the projectile, there is a big chance of catastrophic ammo cook off, and crew death. So in all cases, isolated ammo storage is better, as it increases survivability of both the crew and the tank. And honestly only a fool believes that armor will always protect him. Another example, destroyed Merkava Mk2, with the catastrophic ammo cook off, when primary ammo storage was hit. Another two catastrophic ammo cook offs. There's no hard confirmation yet as to what exactly happened to the Leopards. While it is evident that at least one suffered ammo detonation at the hull, causing catastrophic kill, it may not have been caused immediately in combat. I do however think that its ammo storage is flawed. And that Merkava 2 pic... bro... an IED hit. When several hundred kilograms of explosives detonate below you, and don't turn a tank to dust, give me a call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xlucine Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 19 hours ago, Donward said: A good friend of mine's M1 got hit by the turret of another M1 that was ripped out of its mount by the Incredible Hulk. Abrams is worst tank in the world. Why is the GOVERNMENT sending our boys into battle without the weapons needed to win the fight? Actually those are chieftains, finally we have solid proof that non-isolated ammo is a death trap! Scolopax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That’s Suspicious Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Xlucine said: Actually those are chieftains, finally we have solid proof that non-isolated ammo is a death trap! Anyone else amazed that Hulk literally just threw a "M1 Abrams"about a mile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 He's called "The Incredible Hulk" for a reason. That’s Suspicious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanagandr Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 It's actually a true story, although I have to make a correction that the driver was not in fact killed, he just had severe spinal injuries. On the plus side, getting blown up for a second time was a huge factor in my friend being let out of the army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-47 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 I heard that US Army felt M1A1 (before M1A1HA) didn't have enough protection against Russian new tanks in 1980s, so they welded 80mm RHA plate to M1A1's hull and turret front. But I hardy see any picture of it. So, is this the 1980s upgrade welded plate ? and why they kept so ancient stuff on a M1A2 tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That’s Suspicious Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 28 minutes ago, U-47 said: I heard that US Army felt M1A1 (before M1A1HA) didn't have enough protection against Russian new tanks in 1980s, so they welded 80mm RHA plate to M1A1's hull and turret front. But I hardy see any picture of it. So, is this the 1980s upgrade welded plate ? and why they kept so ancient stuff on a M1A2 tank? I think those are just weight simulators for certain upgrades. I've never seen anything like that before unless it was just a weight simulator. Like the M1E1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xlucine Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 13 hours ago, U-47 said: I heard that US Army felt M1A1 (before M1A1HA) didn't have enough protection against Russian new tanks in 1980s, so they welded 80mm RHA plate to M1A1's hull and turret front. But I hardy see any picture of it. So, is this the 1980s upgrade welded plate ? and why they kept so ancient stuff on a M1A2 tank? Where did you hear this, out of curiosity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-47 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Xlucine said: Where did you hear this, out of curiosity? About 17 years before, on a Chinese magazine, and it do have a photo of " M1 turret front with a welded plate" ( the photo only shows the turret front ) like the one above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Priory_of_Sion Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 From now on, the Abrams and the Bradley will be known as the Bic lighters, "more for your money...always!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguetechie Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 Damnit I like these guys! Saudis are shit bags and it's fun to watch them tormented! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade334 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Not sure this is the right place to ask, but does anyone have high-res blueprints/schematics of the M1A2? (preferably with TUSK v2) I recently started learning 3ds Max and I thought the Abrams might be a nice little guinea pig for my modeling experiments, since the tank has a lot of angles (I seem to have bad luck with curves and all that, so T-series are out of the picture for now) and details that can be duplicated (like the M32 ARAT-2 array). It doesn't matter if it's official/unofficial or even from model kits, for as long as it can be used to build a "virtual studio". Just so I'm clear, I'm looking for something like this, preferably high-res, not too grainy, and with all profiles at the same scale. Oh, and of course, it should be accurate. (click to expand) Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chebuRUSHka Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Was the armour of the M1A2 improved between 1986 and 1992? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORMATOSE Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, chebuRUSHka said: Was the armour of the M1A2 improved between 1986 and 1992? You mean M1A1 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chebuRUSHka Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Sovngard said: You mean M1A1 ? According to many websites the first M1A2 was built in 1986, although it's not clear if they are talking about a prototype or not. The mass production happened somewhere between 1986 and 1992, if they are correct. http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/abrams.htm http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/US/M1_Abrams.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 It was first produced in 1986, I don't know if it was "mass" produced by that time per say but yes the M1A2 first entered service in 1992. It did have a "second generation armor package" installed on it, though I'm not sure at what point that happened in the design or production stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chebuRUSHka Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Just now, Khand-e said: It was first produced in 1986, I don't know if it was "mass" produced per say but yes the M1A2 first entered service in 1992. It did have a "second generation armor package" installed on it, though I'm not sure at what point that happened in the design or production stages. What did have a "second generation armor package"? The 1986 prototype or the 1992 version? Isn't the "second generation armor package" is what's on the M1A1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, chebuRUSHka said: What did have a "second generation armor package"? The 1986 prototype or the 1992 version? Isn't the "second generation armor package" is what's on the M1A1? Memory serve only the M1A1HC variant got the same armor package that the M1A2 did, which came after the M1A1HA/HA+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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