Damian Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 So yeah, maybe I gonna show here some of the more recent development. Let's start with our latest projects, the MSBS and PR-15. MSBS (Modułowy System Broni Strzeleckiej - Modular Small Arms System) as it's codename says is program focused on developing new family of modular small arms for military, law enforcement and civilian use. The first variant is developed for NATO 5.56x45mm cartridge. What is interesting is that MSBS is based on a single, common upper receiver to which various modules can be attached thus creating several weapons types in both classic and bullpup configuration. 1. From top to bottom in classic configuration. - Carbine - Rifle - Rifle + under barrel granade launcher - Magazine fed LMG - Marksman rifle - Ceremonial rifle 2. From top to bottom in bullpup configuration. - Carbine - Rifle - Rifle + under barrel granade launcher - Magazine fed LMG - Marksman rifle Also MSBS for 7.62x51mm cartridge is being in development, both as marksman rifle to replace the SVD, and also as a battle rifle. MSBS was also adopted for 7.62x39mm cartridge seen here compared to 5.56x45mm variant. Also a 12 gauge shotgun variant is considered and seems to be in early development stage. Worth to mention is that also a 40mm UBGL was redesigned. Original design was replaced with new, more classic and more compact one. Also older GPBO-40 and other types of UBGL can be used. Here is episode of Our Army where we can see a great presentation of MSBS ergonomics and functionality. It starts at 3:20. Few words of my own experience with the rifle, it's a bit heavier than standard wz.96 Beryl rifle I am now issued with as a reservist in the army, however MSBS is extremely ergonomic, in terms of ergonomy it's better than AR15 or G36 I also had chance to get some time with. Also during last MSPO I talked with one of the FB engineers working on the project and it seems everything is going well, rifle meet and as I was said even exceeded reliability requirements. MSBS will also receive new magazines despite a fact it can use standard STANAG mags. A standard 30 round magazine. 10 round magazine. Special magazine for blanks only for use in ceremonial rifle variant. Another new weapon designed by Fabryka Broni is new service pistol PR-15 it's general design can be called evolution of MAG-95/98 pistol, also designed by Fabryka Broni, it's fully ambidextreous, and is a really nice pistol, also had it in my hands during last MSPO and it feels good, very ergonomic. That's all for now. D.E. Watters and Belesarius 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 I love the look of the MSBS bullpup carbine for some goofy reason. It's very futuristic looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian Posted February 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 8 hours ago, Belesarius said: I love the look of the MSBS bullpup carbine for some goofy reason. It's very futuristic looking. It's extremely ergonomic for a bullpup, altough I was trained with classic configuration weapons in the army, and I found it in the first place a bit awkward to handle... training needed I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian Posted February 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Ok so now about something older. Currently the basic carbine is wz.1996 Beryl in various versions. This is wz.96A a basic variant and my currently issued weapon as a soldier of National Reserve Forces, it's a pretty nice weapon compared to AKMS I had during my basic course, I like it's stock, much better than AKMS stock, new fire mode selector is a good thing, at least for people with right hand being their dominant one. This is wz.96B, a very rare model, that was designed during our mission in Iraq if I am not mistaken, never actually seen them in person, it was first attempt to integrate Beryl with picatinny rails. And this is newest wz.96C (also known as wz.2004), it uses new hand guard with integral picatinny rails, new stock with adjustable lenght, interesting thing is that primary picatinny rail is detachable from upper receiver. http://www.works11.pl/upload/products_img/21/2.jpg This is wz.96C Mini Beryl, sub carbine version for vehicle crews, and soldiers that need a lighter and more compact weapon. And this is experimental variant called sometimes wz.96D, it have new iron sights attached to picatinny rails, primary rail is now integral part of upper receiver, also it have new magazine well that can use standard STANAG mags. Upper receiver cover is also now on a hinges. Beryl M762 for 7,62x39mm ammo, currently purchased by Nigeria. Comparision of 3 variants of Beryl, from top wz.96C, M545 for 5,45x39mm, M762 for 7,62x39mm. Also it's worth to watch some more videos from FB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meplat Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Can it be "import these to U.S market time" now, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulric Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Well, I was going to post this in my SolidWORKS thread, but it fits here even better. Have some cancer. WIP of a PM-63 "Rak" slide. Zyklon, Sturgeon, Collimatrix and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantalwz88 Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Civilian "Grot-S". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valryon Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Bullpup version of Grot/MSBS with 10" barrel(Grot B10 FB-M1). . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 8 hours ago, Valryon said: Bullpup version of Grot/MSBS with 10" barrel(Grot B10 FB-M1). . Welcome to SH. Valryon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 More pictures from MilMag: Belesarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNcommissar Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 MSBS designers didn't fuck up the charging handle placement like many others do (ARAK, ACR, etc). Most recently, H&K on the HK433 (the later revision/revisions). ETA: By "fuck up" I mean place it too far forward and potentially interfere with mounting a laser, a light and associated switch(es) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Please make a Threat of all military equipments made by Poland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Destroyer said: Please make a Threat of all military equipments made by Poland please achieve more than 8 years of age before posting on this forum Destroyer and LoooSeR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Żółć Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 For anyone interested, here are two PDFs about the potential development of a "silent" mortar projectile that is meant to be used with standard 60mm infantry mortars.CONCEPTION OF “SILENT” MORTAR PROJECTILE PART 1 CONCEPTION OF “SILENT” MORTAR PROJECTILE PART 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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