Belesarius Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 According to my book (amazon link), Kingfish would have had about the same top speed as the A-12, Mach 3.2 (pg. 181), while having about 700 miles less range, and slightly higher cost (also, the government was more confident in Lockheed's ability to deliver the aircraft on time and work in a highly secretive environment). The Mach 4 figure appears to be for an earlier variant of FISH (First Invisible Super Hustler) that would have been air launched from a modified B-58. I think we were looking at the same #s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 A blurb about the vulnerability of the B-36 to contemporary interceptors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xthetenth Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Chuck Yeager was very good at talking about doing things that would mean Chuck Yeager is a good pilot, no matter what the facts are. Here's a big old source dump post on the subject of B-36 intercepts: http://www.tank-net.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9510&p=179123. The quote from Magnesium Overcast is there in the book, so I'm confident in the Big Stick quotes being in that one. Belesarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Chuck Yeager was very good at talking about doing things that would mean Chuck Yeager is a good pilot, no matter what the facts are. Here's a big old source dump post on the subject of B-36 intercepts: http://www.tank-net.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9510&p=179123. The quote from Magnesium Overcast is there in the book, so I'm confident in the Big Stick quotes being in that one. Thanks for that read xthetenth. That was interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Wow... Just read this. A mach 3+ disintegration and dude survived! Geeze. Totally unsurprised that the other guy broke his neck almost instantaneously. http://theaviationist.com/2015/03/17/sr-71-mid-air-disintegration/ Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xthetenth Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Wow... Just read this. A mach 3+ disintegration and dude survived! Geeze. Totally unsurprised that the other guy broke his neck almost instantaneously. http://theaviationist.com/2015/03/17/sr-71-mid-air-disintegration/ There was also an Eagle that went out of control and the crew ejected supersonic, apparently it was a very unpleasant experience and only one survived, and he needed a bunch of therapy to get back into shape, but he made it back to flying. http://www.ejectionsite.com/insaddle/insaddle.htm Apparently the first guy to survive it was in an F-100A, and he was a total mess when he got down too. http://www.whiteeagleaerospace.com/supersonic-nightmare/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted June 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Apparently it's possible to fly a Mirage F1 without any previous fast jet experience and not get yourself killed on your first flight; http://www.checksix-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=279&t=190143 edit: pics http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=520247IMG7884copy.jpg http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.p...IMG7876copy.jpg http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.p...IMG7847copy.jpg Belesarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Massive testicles. Seriously. Very courageous dude. Would not want to hire him as a manager due to poor decision making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted June 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Mirage F1s are pretty rad in general; Toxn and RobotMinisterofTrueKorea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 I forgot to post this yesterday but August 7 was the 60th anniversary of Tex Johnson performing barrel rolls in a prototype 707 - the Dash-80 -over Lake Washington during SeaFair. The publicity stunt was one of many factors according to legend that helped Boeing achieve dominance in the commercial airline industry. http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?displaypage=output.cfm&file_id=390 http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/60-years-ago-the-famous-boeing-707-barrel-roll-over-lake-washington/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted December 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 So, remember that flight that crashed in Indonesia a while back; https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/circuit-board-solder-crack-cited-in-indonesia-airasi-419593/The accident report got released, and goon Alereon helpfully provided a summary. The overall process of the accident seemed to be:1. There's a computer that keeps pilots from turning the rudder so hard or rapidly that it snaps the tail off the aircraft. This computer had a broken internal wire connection so every 3 minutes it would shut down, trigger a bunch of errors on the displays, and need to be rebooted.2. After the 4th rudder computer crash/reboot, the co-pilot decided to try rebooting both Flight Augmentation Computers (providing autopilot, protections, Airbus magic) as well. This is a redundant system, so you should be able to shut down computer 1, turn it back on, then do the same for computer 2 without an interruption. The pilot failed to correctly restart the first computer, so when he turned off computer 2 they lost both computers. Note that to restart computer 2 the co-pilot had turn his seat around (thanks Linedance!), the breakers are behind him.3. With the loss of both FACs, a whole bunch of error alarms and warnings appeared, the autopilot disengaged, they lost all protections and Airbus magic, and a pilot was required to take manual control of the aircraft. Because of what the FACs were doing when turned off, the rudder settled to 2 degrees left, and the aircraft began a left roll at 6 degrees per second, which is relatively fast and can be felt in your inner ear.4. Surprised by the unexpected loss of both FACs, neither pilot recognized that they had to fly the airplane. 9 seconds later, the co-pilot who had been troubleshooting realized that he could feel the aircraft rolling, noticed their attitude. and freaked out. He screamed "Oh God!" and pulled the stick back and to the right, pitching the aircraft up and rolling right to level within two seconds, which is super violent. He over-corrected trying to stop the roll, and rolled back to the original 54 degrees left, then corrected more gradually right back to wings level, but still pitched up.5. During the roll corrections, stall warnings began to sound because the aircraft was pitched up and losing speed. The pilot noticed this and began to push the stick forward, however the co-pilot was still pulling back. The warning that tells pilots they are fighting each-other did not sound because the stall warning was playing instead. The average of their control inputs was a continued pitch up (because the co-pilot was pulling harder than the pilot was pushing), so the aircraft continued climbing until it stalled. The pilot was recorded telling the co-pilot to "Pull down", he meant to say "push down", but every time he said this the co-pilot pulled up harder instead, the opposite from the correct response.6. Neither pilot had had stall* or upset recovery training because those conditions were believed to be impossible due to the protections provided by the FAC, so the pilots did not recover appropriately. The aircraft fell for about a minute and then broke up at around 12,000 feet.*They had had "approach to stall" recovery training, how to return to normal flight after the computer has prevented you from stalling the aircraft, but not training about how to save your aircraft when you have already stalled it. Emphasis added on point 6, because holy fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 What you are telling me is that Airbuses are substantially autonomous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 We've come a long way from commercial pilots doing barrel rolls over Lake Washington to sit in this chair and don't touch anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Somewhat related: CVR database The CVR/story behind Fedex 705 is especially insane (even considering everyone lived) AC: Sit down, sit down, get back in your seat, this is a real gun, I'll kill ya.JT: Get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him!AW: bank angle, bank angle...JT: Get him, get him, get him!AC: I'm gonna kill you!AC: Hey, hey! I'll kill ya!AW: bank angle, bank angleDS: Get him, get him, get him!AW: bank angle, bank angleDS: Yeah, get him!AW: bank angle, bank angleJT: Get him, get him, get him, Andy, I got the airplane!AW: bank angle, bank angleJT: Get him, Andy, get him!AW: bank angle, bank angle(struggling in background)(overseed warning -- series of clicks in background)JT to Center: Center, Center, emergency! Center, emergency!AW: bank angle, bank angle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Using this thread as a dump for any aero stuff; here's a list of engines the Smithsonian has in its collection. http://www.enginehistory.org/Holdings/NASMHoldings_3.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Anti-helicopter mines. Sure, why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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