Akula_941 Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Army2017 and here we go again, i kind start to hope this fake AK-12 just die completely for good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 new decent looking of RPK-16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 new 12.7mm prototype 'KK' go home, HS50, you are drunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 more SVCh display on army2017 with both 7.62x54r and 7.62x51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Vityaz-SN the sports version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 beautiful SVCh-338 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 GShG-7.62 the undead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 some size comparison between SVDM and SVCh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Don't forget the robot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 22 minutes ago, EnsignExpendable said: 不要忘记机器人 this thing literally gives me Vietnam/Afghanistan/Stalingrad flashback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 sekreit weaponez That_Baka, Ramlaen, EnsignExpendable and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Why this is a seprate thread? Most of those guns a boring and nothing special. With small exception of SVCh and AMB rifles, Kalashnikov did not shown anything interesting or new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronezhilet Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, LoooSeR said: Why this is a seprate thread? Most of those guns a boring and nothing special. With small exception of SVCh and AMB rifles, Kalashnikov did not shown anything interesting or new. So the glory of Stalin Soviet Union Russia is easier to find? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, LoooSeR said: Why this is a seprate thread? Most of those guns a boring and nothing special. With small exception of SVCh and AMB rifles, Kalashnikov did not shown anything interesting or new. Yes; what is supposed to go in this thread, @Akula_941? Is it supposed to be only new Russian stuff or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Seems pretty obvious to me. Russian infantry-related stuff. Makes a ton of sense, since 80% of what gets posted here is that anyway. Might as well have its own separate thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 On 8/23/2017 at 5:46 PM, Akula_941 said: Army2017 and here we go again, i kind start to hope this fake AK-12 just die completely for good According to my sources it performs better than the "real" AK-12, while being cheaper. I agree it's disappointing visually though. Also EOTech lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Also, something I've noticed: The new AK-12 mags have a side latch position, like an AR mag. Makes me wonder what that's for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 On 2017/8/25 at 5:55 PM, Collimatrix said: Yes; what is supposed to go in this thread, @Akula_941? Is it supposed to be only new Russian stuff or what? well probably yes, these topic with 100+ page is painful to looking for something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 On 2017/8/25 at 6:24 PM, Sturgeon said: According to my sources it performs better than the "real" AK-12, while being cheaper. I agree it's disappointing visually though. Also EOTech lol. What kind of better performs? also does the new AK-12 cancel the burst firing mode entirely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 54 minutes ago, Akula_941 said: What kind of better performs? also does the new AK-12 cancel the burst firing mode entirely? Burst fire was sort of a short-lived fad, and I don't think that any AKs were ever mass produced with burst limiters. It was just something that was offered if it would help sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 30 minutes ago, Collimatrix said: Burst fire was sort of a short-lived fad, and I don't think that any AKs were ever mass produced with burst limiters. It was just something that was offered if it would help sales. what about Bolt Catch？ is the Bolt Catch mechanism from old AK-12 still available？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Collimatrix said: Burst fire was sort of a short-lived fad, and I don't think that any AKs were ever mass produced with burst limiters. It was just something that was offered if it would help sales. AFAIK the AK-12/400 has a four position selector with a 2 round burst mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula_941 Posted August 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Sturgeon said: AFAIK the AK-12/400 has a four position selector with a 2 round burst mode. I see the 2 under AV, damn it i am blind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Akula_941 said: What kind of better performs? also does the new AK-12 cancel the burst firing mode entirely? I can't give any more detailed info on this yet. Hopefully soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 OK, I'll give this thread a try: So, here's what we know so far: AM-17 and AMB-17 are supposed to be based on the old Dragunov MA design: This design featured a steel "spine" that served as a contact point for the moving parts. The weapon was made, otherwise, almost entirely of plastic. This is a good design for cheap mass-manufacture, and should also eliminate some of the problems with other plastic receivers in rifles. It is not clear if the AM-17 supersedes the reborn Dragunov MA that was first shown about a year ago: SVCh is apparently also based (at least loosely) on the old Dragunov MA design, but it is apparently not the same thing as the SVK that was shown earlier (Max Popenker has also said this). PL-15K looks like it might be striker-fired, and at least one brochure described the design as being optionally striker-fired. The original PL-14 prototype was clearly hammer fired with an internal hammer: (#3 is the hammer) The original arrangement, with the internal hammer, is better in my opinion than a Glock-style striker. Strikers have two main advantages over hammers. The first advantage is that they allow a lower bore axis. The second advantage is that they are cheaper to make. The PL-14 design solved the first problem, and the PL-14 clearly had a bore axis just as low as any striker-fired gun. It seems unlikely that they were also able to make it just as cheap as a striker, but the price different is small in any case. Hammers have a number of small advantages over strikers. Hammers generally have greater spring energy and will reliably ignite ammunition with hard primers that strikers will not. Additionally, Glock-style strikers are pushing against the frame in the opposite direction of the return spring when the slide is in battery. MP-444 is described as striker-fired, but appears to have a hammer. Did the rep mis-speak? Otherwise, it looks very generic. The big, square breech section of the barrel suggests that it is yet another tilting-barrel, short-recoil design that locks the slide and barrel together at the ejection port. It appears that Kalashnikov Concern hired a product designer to improve the appearance of their products. They do look much better now (the AM-17 in particular), but they also look very generic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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