Beer Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Sprut-SDM with some addon armor seems to be a logical choice also because of ammo commonality with the T-90S but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 https://www.google.fr/amp/s/www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_june_2021_global_security_army_industry/india_plans_to_procure_1700_future_ready_combat_vehicles_to_replacce_t-72m_ajeya_tanks.amp.html The first operational unit is scheduled in 2071. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-L-M Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, Serge said: 2071 Are you sure? That sounds rather extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 This thing makes the Brazilian Nuclear submarine development looks easy and smooth by comparison. But what baffles me the most is not that this is a bad vehicle, but that Indians themselves defend it. Why? Why defend something you know is shit, bad for the country you say you love? Every nation has made some POS equipment before, but to defend it because muh national pride is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 hours ago, N-L-M said: Are you sure? That sounds rather extreme. The Arjun MBT program started in 1972. FORMATOSE and Lord_James 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 We will have fun soon : https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/india-revives-near-dead-ficv-new-tender/ Lord_James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 If they’re still considering the Sprut, locally producing the BMP-3 and/or BMD-4 might be an option*. Both BMP and BMD are decent IFV’s, more mature and would probably be better vehicles than any of India’s in-house designs. *Quality control would probably be... lacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADC411 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord_James said: BMP-3 Dragoon in particular wouldn't be a bad choice. The 100mm ATGM compatible gun would also help bolster antitank capabilities in mountainous regions or those with less developed infrastructure. But Indian procurement being what it is, expect the most reasonable option to be the last one they consider. Also, posters on India Defence claim that the RFI is for domestic companies only, so I suppose we can check back in 20 years to see how that's going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 19 hours ago, ADC411 said: BMP-3 Dragoon in particular wouldn't be a bad choice. The 100mm ATGM compatible gun would also help bolster antitank capabilities in mountainous regions or those with less developed infrastructure. IMHO the 100 mm gun would be especially helpful against fixed fortifications and buildings in the hard mountain terrain where most of Indias troubles happen. With some variant of BMP-3 there is little need for a light tank (if own MBTs can't go there, the opponent's ones can't most likely too and for the rest the 100 mm gun/GLATGM is enough). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 19 hours ago, ADC411 said: But Indian procurement being what it is, expect the most reasonable option to be the last one they consider. Oh I know it’s highly unlikely they will make a sensible option, but it is important to give a suggestion that is on-the-mark so as to gauge how far off-the-mark they choose to go. 14 minutes ago, Beer said: IMHO the 100 mm gun would be especially helpful against fixed fortifications and buildings in the hard mountain terrain where most of Indias troubles happen. With some variant of BMP-3 there is little need for a light tank (if own MBTs can't go there, the opponent's ones can't most likely too and for the rest the 100 mm gun/GLATGM is enough). Not only, the lightweight and amphibious nature of the BMP-3 would also be a benefit when crossing rivers and poorly constructed bridges/ roads. Sprut or Dragun 125 might still be a good choice, considering China does have that Type / ZTQ-15 (or whatever it’s called), which it would most definitely see in the mountains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Lord_James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Serge Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 I love this peace of news. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_january_2022_global_security_army_industry/nexter_from_france_could_propose_modernized_leclerc_tank_for_replacement_of_indian_t-72_mbts.amp.html I think Russian proposal for a T15 derivative is more likely to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Serge said: I love this peace of news. https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_january_2022_global_security_army_industry/nexter_from_france_could_propose_modernized_leclerc_tank_for_replacement_of_indian_t-72_mbts.amp.html I think Russian proposal for a T15 derivative is more likely to succeed. T-15 is heavy IFV, it can't replace MBTs, neither there are tanks designed using T-15 layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 My bad, I was considering the T14 MBT of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 23 hours ago, Serge said: My bad, I was considering the T14 MBT of course. I'm not sure that Indians are that much interested in T-14. At least engine and gearbox are not going to be locally produced for some time, probably same with ammo. They might be more keen on T-90M version. At least it will be cheaper overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 Laviduce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 https://newsonair.com/2022/04/13/demystifying-indian-armys-indigenously-developed-specialist-combat-vehicles/ Laviduce, Ramlaen, Lord_James and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Quote IPMV is packaged wth state-of-the-art critical technologies like Integrated power pack with Automatic transmission, I thought this was standard… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Lord_James said: I thought this was standard… I thought this was under standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 DRDO at it again Project Zorawar, lets compare the Russia's Sprut and Korea's Hanwas and then decide to rapidly develop an equivalent in DRDO time. https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/project-zorawar-light-tank-developed-by-lt-and-drdo-to-roll-out-by-the-middle-of-next-year what could possibly go wrong... Ramlaen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.T Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 Not particularly well armored , STANAG 2 is AK47 AP round , and level 4 is 14.5x114 , and its kinda unusual in using a 105mm gun and atgm externally mounted. ''The tank would feature all round STANAG Level 2 protection with add-on armour taking it to STANAG Level 4 in the front.'' Ramlaen and Laviduce 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_MM Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 The turret is from John Cockerill. So its not the usual DRDO vaporware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.T Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, SH_MM said: The turret is from John Cockerill. So its not the usual DRDO vaporware. Just wait till they specify some Bollywood upgrades to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scolopax Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 Is the hull something new and domestic then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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