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We can have all sorts of fun with statistics. Here are some from the Center of Disease Control stating that 9 people die and 1,000 crashes occur from car accidents involving "distracted driving" (texting).

 

https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/distracted_driving/index.html

 

In 2015,  3,477 people were killed and 391,000 injured by distracted drivers (texting).

 

https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.dot.gov/files/documents/812_381_distracteddriving2015.pdf

 

So clearly we should have waiting periods on the ability to buy a cell phone and data plan.

Cell users need to obtain training before they receive a license.

Since teens are disproportionately prone to texting, and are victims of texting and driving, the age to own and use a cell phone should be raised to 21.

There is no Constitutional protection giving American citizens the right to text or yammer away on a cell phone. 

 

 

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Different strokes for different folks, but my dad as a former highschool teacher(both primary circuit, and Juvenile Detention) supports the option to arm teachers. One experience he cited was when he used to teach at one of those minute southern California native american tribal areas(Too small for a casino like a nearby tribe, but big enough to have their own mountain area) back in the early 90's. Living up on their mountain valley, it was rural enough and displaced from urban sprawl that many families owned ranches and some students rode on horseback to school. The key point that got my dad's attention however was that it's a 40 minute drive, one-way, to get down the hill to the nearest hospital or the valley's police department. So if there was ever a problem, it had to be settled pretty frickin quick. Luckily two of the teachers on staff were retired police, and open carried, and as far as my dad knew everyone felt just that much safer for it.

 

I suppose it's a different matter of priorities when you're in the depths of urban sprawl of a major city, but having it as an option instead of a mandate I think could still be useful.

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4 hours ago, Meplat said:

Except for the one that apparently camped in the shrubs , while the kid was shooting things up.

"When seconds count, police are minutes away.( Or hiding)".

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/22/us/florida-school-shooting/index.html

 

3 hours ago, Collimatrix said:

 

That's my main concern about this proposal to put armed guards in all the schools.  Society entrusts a certain number of individuals with arms that they will do what is necessary should necessity arise.  Sometimes they're heroic, like the cop who responded to the Sikh temple shooting, couldn't get his rifle free from the malfunctioning gun rack lock, and went ahead to engage the shooter with his sidearm, or that USAF MP who engaged an active shooter on base with his duty handgun.  I would say that an almost improbable percent of the time, they're heroic.

But some of the time they're cowards.  The late, lamented @Hognose had written about psychological evaluations of candidates for special forces.  Apparently they have the understanding of what it takes to make solid combat psychology close to a science.  I do recall him saying that a certain percentage of people are simply constitutionally unfit for it.

 

Just read the Orlando Sentinel's coverage of this and it is absolutely pathetic.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/fl-florida-shooting-sro-20180222-story.html

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the guy suck started his service pistol at some later date.

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26 minutes ago, Donward said:

 

 

Just read the Orlando Sentinel's coverage of this and it is absolutely pathetic.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/fl-florida-shooting-sro-20180222-story.html

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the guy suck started his service pistol at some later date.

I doubt he'll do shit.  But if he does, I bet he'll "wait upwards of four minutes" ( before doing nothing).

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It's not just the news either, I think everyone is going psycho

 

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Criminal charges will not be filed against a student after allegedly saying a math symbol looked like a gun.

 

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 According to investigators, the comment made by the student in question "could" sound like a threat when taken out of context.

 

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The zero tolerance (for rational thought) policy strikes again. So, explain to me how they were able to get a warrant to search the parents house for a firearm because there kid said the word "gun" in an innocent context, and not even implying ownership, possession, or ready access to a firearm.

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1 hour ago, Legiondude said:

I wonder if it would actually sink in with leftist millenials

 

Anyway, anyone else see the news that not one, not two, but a total of four deputies from the sheriff's department chose not to enter the school during the event?

Not even surprised. Think they even had their radios set up when they arrived?

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This is priceless:

 

http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/graphic-video-liquor-store-owner-recounts-robbery-that-led-to/article_75e39bed-0d83-56b6-97f4-f6d747137b4e.html

 

Seems like a damned good argument.....For using a bigger calibre! 

 

The dude looks like Swiss-Cheese by the end of it but he still managed to drag his own sorry ass to hospital.

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1 hour ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

This is priceless:

 

http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/graphic-video-liquor-store-owner-recounts-robbery-that-led-to/article_75e39bed-0d83-56b6-97f4-f6d747137b4e.html

 

Seems like a damned good argument.....For using a bigger calibre! 

 

The dude looks like Swiss-Cheese by the end of it but he still managed to drag his own sorry ass to hospital.

Or an American 180...

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