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For the mean time:

 

 

Updated Special Armor Locations:

 

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Fuel Tank Locations:

 

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Main Gun Ammunition Locations:

 

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Crew Locations:

 

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Armament Locations:

 

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Powerpack Location:

 

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Gorgeous. 

3 hours ago, Laviduce said:

Armament Locations:

 

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I find the coax HMG barrel a little bit long. 

 

Do you have pictures of the suspension ?

 

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Since the aim of this project is to estimate the vulnerability of the Leclerc Series 1, the suspension is not as detailed as the rest. I was thinking once I get the vulnerability maps done  and have some time on my hand I will go back to flesh out the suspension.

 

Concerning the Browning, i took extra care to use technical drawings and other 3d models as a reference. The size, shape and proportions should be reasonably close to the real M2HB. Either way, If you have more detailed information dealing with the length,shape and size of the M2HB I would be grateful if you could share it with me. 

 

The total length of the M2HB seems to vary between 1560 mm and 1656 mm depending on the model.

 

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m2-50cal-specs.htm

https://guns.fandom.com/wiki/M2_Browning

 

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4 minutes ago, Laviduce said:

Since the aim of this project is to estimate the vulnerability of the Leclerc Series 1, the suspension is not as detailed as the rest. I was thinking once I get the vulnerability maps done  and have some time on my hand I will go back to flesh out the suspension.

Suspension is part of the protection. This is why it’s interesting to show it. 

4 minutes ago, Laviduce said:

 

Concerning the Browning, i took extra care to use technical drawings and other 3d models as a reference. The size, shape and proportions should be reasonably close to the real M2HB. Either way, If you have more detailed information dealing with the length,shape and size of the M2HB I would be grateful if you could share it with me. 

 

I was wrong. 

In fact, I used to see the Leclerc without the HMG in place, so it looks like shorter. 

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1 minute ago, Serge said:

I was wrong. 

In fact, I used to see the Leclerc without the HMG in place, so it looks like shorter. 

 This also confused me  for a while when i saw this:

 

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I was thinking for a while that there were two different kind of  muzzle barrels. After a while i realized that the barrel in the second image just didnt have the M2HB mounted. duuhh!

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14 minutes ago, LoooSeR said:

@Laviduce

Can you tell where did you get info about a fuel tank to the left from driver position?

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The book Le Systeme Leclerc, former Leclerc tank commander Froggy, and indirect hints of there being a fuel tank. Looking at the image, that sponson fuel tank is bound by the storage box and special armor to the right of it and the CDF on the left.

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After some feedback and taking a closer look at an image of the front hull special armor bays, I made a small change to the left sponson fuel cell and removed the little flap near the special armor inserts. It seems that this spot is taken up by the special armor insert.  At 0,0045  m3  this is a small but still a somewhat important change. I will update the images accordingly. Oof.

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22 minutes ago, LoooSeR said:

   Is this a mistake in modelling of fuel tank? People on otvaga are interested, looks a bit complicated shape for a fuel tank. 

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Yes, this piece gave me trouble and I had reservations of this being part of the fuel tank system because of the awkward location and shape. Taking a closer look of the image of the frunt hull special armor bay I have come to the conclusion that this colume is most likely taken up by the the special armor array. Like this update:

 

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This seems to be a far cleaner solution and simplifies the design. 4-5 liters of fuel would not be worth the hassle of putting a "mini" fuel tank in that location:

 

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This is a far cleaner and simpler design solution. Thank you for the feedback !

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5 hours ago, Met749 said:

Nice job. Can you do schemes with armor and crew locations? Interesting to see how armor modules protect the crew. And photo like thiswith crewmembers
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Here is a diagram with the crew (blue) and special armor volumes (red) highlighted. Spaced armor (i.e. mantlet, heavy side skirts, right front hull, etc.) is not highlighted:

 

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Thnk you very much. IMO optimizing the balance of crew positions and armor modulesis a good way to increase protection and survivebility, for example here we can place gunner and commander closer turret armor increasing their angles protection, while sights been placed backwards.d0109178_5192388b7966b.jpg

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The HL-70 CIV, HL-60 GPS and periscopes (bright green):

 

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Gun elevation mechanism (blue) and turret traverse mechanism (salmon):

 

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On 5/2/2019 at 9:04 PM, Laviduce said:

The HL-70 CIV, HL-60 GPS and periscopes (bright green):

 

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Gun elevation mechanism (blue) and turret traverse mechanism (salmon):

 

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Do you have any photo of the gun elevation mech?

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26 minutes ago, Molota_477 said:

Do you have any photo of the gun elevation mech?

 

Here are some images and diagrams  that show the elevation mechanishm. The main components are located underneat the main gun in front of the breech block. I tried to be as generic as possible  without compromising the actual shape of the mechanism as much as possible.  Froggy and DarkLabor helped quite a bit with images and some general information.

 

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