DrPlop Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 My guess, it is just a full option drawing. You never know they buy it. And the price of a rcws is dropping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laser Shark Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 IIRC Norway decided against putting an RWS (Protector Nordic) on the K9 because "it was negatively affected by the cannon blast pressure" - or at least that's what this article claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-L-M Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 It is also possible, or perhaps even likely, that .50+ RCWS will be a major part of anti-drone, anti-loitering munition point defenses in the coming years. Having the ability to host one provides substantial self protection ability against said threat which is oh so fashionable to talk about nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 I would suggest the RWS integration will be partly responsible for the command, control, communications, and computing (C4) capability, basically (Kongsberg) an integral part of the K9's digital architecture and fire-control system. Otherwise they would just chosen Australia's EOS RWS for the australian market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Meant to post these earlier in conjunction with the video showing Hanwha's RWS offerings. Here's some photos of the Tigon and KAAV-7A1 with the RWSs from that video that were on display at ADEX 2019. (Link to Mr.AP's photos from this event: http://mrap5124.egloos.com/6547684) KAAV-7A1: Spoiler Tigon: Spoiler Stimpy75 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 Footage of K1E1s, K200s, a K242, and a K1 ARV towing a BMP-3. Clan_Ghost_Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Another promotional video from Hanwha this time on the K30 Biho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 A bit of an unfortunate accident with a K1. This happened back in 2003 where this K1 was driving along a road in the early morning towards a training center near Sanjeong Lake when on a narrow strip of road they were on a collision course with a bus. The commander of the tank ordered the driver to try and avoid a collision with said bus but broke the guard rail and fell 4.5 meters into the dry river bed. The commander and loader both died while the gunner suffered a fractured knee and the driver suffered minor scrapes. Spoiler Ramlaen, Laviduce and Stimpy75 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_MM Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 Ramlaen, Clan_Ghost_Bear, Cleb and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauntlet Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 Is the NERA specifically placed in order to fortify the crew compartment in the turret? The line of NERA on top, between the patches for the crew hatches (?), is also placed interesting. Image suggest, that NERA placement on top, is to protect the area's where the blue stuff is not possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laviduce Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 Is there more of this that deals with the turret front and hull front ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORMATOSE Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 It's a rather peculiar layout, given the achieved protection level. The side armor only relies and on a thin composite plate (KSAP), a stowage box and small Kontakt-1-like NERA bricks. Does the threats hit the sides with a 60° obliquity (coming from the front) ? Laviduce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 The side turret armor of the K2 has always thrown me for a loop. Maybe there's more than meets the eye but it's hard to say. Regardless here's a picture from one of the discussions on the Korean side of the internet on the protection of the side turret wall And the unwatermarked slides that SH_MM posted Spoiler Zyklon, Stimpy75, Clan_Ghost_Bear and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atokara Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 3:38 PM, Cleb said: The side turret armor of the K2 has always thrown me for a loop. Maybe there's more than meets the eye but it's hard to say. I don't really see it as much of an issue. The K2 seems to be protected against the most common CE threats it would see in combat. As for KE threats, pretty much any actual cannon will punch through every MBTs side armor. Based on the frontal estimates of the armor, KSAP CERMET seems to be pretty effective and with what looks to be around 80mm of it on the side, the K2 should be protected against autocannons at combat ranges. Composite side armor on most MBTs is usually relegated to increased protection at a 60 degree arc, but for shots at those angles the LWS will probably get the turret facing the threat in between the laser and actual shot fired. Pretty much every new MBT development has had the same idea that side turret composites tend to be a waste of weight and it's better to shave it off for strategic mobility or used that saved weight to mount better information/electronic warfare systems which are a much better defense on the modern battlefield. There is some trend that the people designing these tanks see that the general population can't, and this is probably the new route that AFV development is headed. Until recently a majority of people saw autoloaders as pieces of junk that broke down after every 2 shots and eviscerated crew members weekly, but Russia, France, and Japan still continued to field them. Fast forward to now and they seem like a requirement for most new MBTs going forward and everyone else is just playing catch up. TLDR: The people designing these tanks for a living and have mountains of combat research data deemed it unnecessary, so it's probably unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Some more pictures detailing the additional armor on the turret and hull of the K2. Spoiler LoooSeR, Stimpy75, Beer and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 Some detail photos of the Hanwha Tigon. The ROK Army has currently two units operating, for a limited time, the Tigon to provide feedback both operationally and technically to Hanwha. This also extends to other export focused offerings by South Korean defence companies. Spoiler Beer, Scolopax, Stimpy75 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scolopax Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 To confirm, this is still just intend to be an export vehicle, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted February 19, 2021 Report Share Posted February 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Scolopax said: To confirm, this is still just intend to be an export vehicle, yes? Yes this is just part of a cooperation program between the ROKA and the defense companies from South Korea. The bits of equipment being tested aren't intended to be adopted by the ROK. (Machine Translated) "The Defense Acquisition Program Administration (Director Wang Jung-hong) announced on the 7th that the Army and three defense export companies have signed a military pilot operation agreement for export weapons systems and will start pilot operations this month. The pilot operation system of the export weapons system is a defense export support system that the South Korean military provides operating performance after piloting the weapons system developed for export purposes for a certain period of time." (https://news.v.daum.net/v/20201007091528180) Scolopax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord_James Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 4 hours ago, David Moyes said: Does the PL-01 have its own personal necromancer or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 Good to see the Biho II getting some more attention. Here are some more photos from previous defense expos and presentations. Spoiler Stimpy75 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 A new K2 variant has made it's debut at IDEX 2021, the K2M. From what I all can see it's an offshoot of the K2PL though with minor changes, the hard-kill APS has been replaced with the soft-kill APS system (similar to that of the normal K2, you have the soft-kill radar and the rotatable smoke grenade launcher). You also have additional cage armor applied to the turret bustle. Hopefully more and better images pop up. Molota_477, Stimpy75, David Moyes and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrappyHead Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Cleb said: A new K2 variant has made it's debut at IDEX 2021, the K2M. From what I all can see it's an offshoot of the K2PL though with minor changes, the hard-kill APS has been replaced with the soft-kill APS system (similar to that of the normal K2, you have the soft-kill radar and the rotatable smoke grenade launcher). You also have additional cage armor applied to the turret bustle. Hopefully more and better images pop up. that's one hella THICC BOI, with all that passive armor it must be goes beyond 60 ton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanch90 Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Driver has been relocated to the center of the chassis. I wonder where they put the ammo that is on the right currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, alanch90 said: Driver has been relocated into the center of the chassis. I wonder where they put the ammo that is on the right currently. This was done already for Altay and if I am not mistaken the ammo is on both sides of the driver in Altay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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