Belesarius Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Holy crap. That broken off barrel pic. WTF caused that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Holy crap. That broken off barrel pic. WTF caused that? I don't remember the cause but it was back in 2014 during a training exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Magach 7A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LoooSeR Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Does anybody here know what those "ears" are for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Question to the Israeli tank rivet-counting experts; do Sho't Kals have an L7 or an M68? The pictures I've seen seem to show an eccentric bore evacuator, which would lead me to believe it's an M68. Did they ever have L7s, or did they go straight from 20 pounders to M68s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Does anybody here know what those "ears" are for? Yes, but as it is probably OPSEC still, no comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Question to the Israeli tank rivet-counting experts; do Sho't Kals have an L7 or an M68? The pictures I've seen seem to show an eccentric bore evacuator, which would lead me to believe it's an M68. Did t hey ever have L7s, or did they go straight from 20 pounders to M68s? Hi, To the best of my knowledge, all the Shot Kals were fitted with L7s and not M68s. I don't know of any examples of the Shot Kal, be they conversions of Centurion MKs 3, 5 or 7, that were fitted with the M68. Having said that, in the wacky world of IDF tank uprgrades, which tend to be done in relatively small batches, it is not impossible if unlikely, any Shot Kal received the M68. Cheers Marsh Collimatrix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Shot Kals were upgraded to 105mm before 1973, meaning they had those before the US first started sending aid and selling arms. UK was still the major supplier at the time, so it wouldn't make much sense to try and buy an M68 when L7 are readily available with similar performance. Collimatrix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Thank you both. I wasn't clear on the timing of the upgrade; I had it in my head that it happened after the UK stopped supplying the Israelis. Truly it is an item of the most obscure trivia, especially considering that the M68 and L7 are nearly the same gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Yes, but as it is probably OPSEC still, no comment. I am stuck with 2 most probable options IMO - observation system or jammer like Shtora. Or both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter_Sobchak Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Shot Kals were upgraded to 105mm before 1973, meaning they had those before the US first started sending aid and selling arms. UK was still the major supplier at the time, so it wouldn't make much sense to try and buy an M68 when L7 are readily available with similar performance. Upgrades of Israeli Centurions to the 105mm L7 started in February of 1963. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Hi, Walter is right. Centurions started to convert to the L7 in the early 1960s. The Shot Kal programme, which replaced the original engine and transmission etc, as well as the gun (for those tanks not already converted to the 105 mm weapon), started after some delay in 1970. Not all tanks had been converted to the Shot Kal standard by 1973, but all, as far as I know, all had the 105mm L7 by October 1973. Cheers Marsh Belesarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Upgrades of Israeli Centurions to the 105mm L7 started in February of 1963. Isn't 1963 before 1973? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Israel is trying into maskirovka Collimatrix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Israel is trying into maskirovka I am genuinely surprised that the Hyena decoy system has been declassified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I guess there is not much of what you can hide about self-propelled placard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 This system was unveiled in Eurosatory a few months ago. While it's not yet mentioned if the Merkava 4 will get it, the Eitan is confirmed to have it, and Namer will MAYBE get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Enjoy: Marsh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Like the beefed up side skirts ..... Now I know what this beast was intended for (Casualty evacuation apparently)., I must say it' a bloody silly design. Surely converting one of the many mothballed Merkava IIs, would have made more sense. Rear hatch etc for bringing in stretchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Like the beefed up side skirts ..... Now I know what this beast was intended for (Casualty evacuation apparently)., I must say it' a bloody silly design. Surely converting one of the many mothballed Merkava IIs, would have made more sense. Rear hatch etc for bringing in stretchers. The project was cancelled. It started in 2014 when the ground forces needed cheap, armored evacuation vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 died, 3 injured after this incident with Mk4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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