Jim Warford Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 "Fury" from Tankfest 2018... EnsignExpendable, Jeeps_Guns_Tanks and LoooSeR 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter_Sobchak Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 On 7/19/2018 at 10:37 PM, Jim Warford said: "Fury" from Tankfest 2018... Hi Jim, glad to see you posting here! The fact that I didn't notice it earlier means I don't visit the soviet tank threads enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warford Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Walter; thanks...glad to be here! Yup, I'm pretty consistent in that regard. By the way, congrats on your website...it's grown into a must-visit place on the Net. Walter_Sobchak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 T-34-85 and M4 participated in Navy parade in Severomorsk. This Sherman is one that was restored by Northen Fleet. EnsignExpendable and Jeeps_Guns_Tanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 Sherman of the smoker, Pacific fleet parade, Vladivostok. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiedzmin Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 7/16/2018 at 9:41 AM, Wiedzmin said: read some british report about M4A4, it syas that bow machine gun have bronze(on second photo shield is painted yelow, but ball look like bronze?) parts C and BB, does all shermans have same ? and is there any good blueprint or measures of B(shield) part(1-2 inch thick?) ? one more about bronze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 23 hours ago, LoooSeR said: Sherman of the smoker, Pacific fleet parade, Vladivostok. Hide contents The English equivalent of this meme would be "this is your Sherman on drugs/in prison" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted July 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 13 hours ago, Wiedzmin said: one more about bronze I've never heard of the part being bronze before, and since its a gun mount, the part is not in the G104 parts lists, so I don't have a good description of the part either. I'll ask over on the Sherman mailing list and see if they have any idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted July 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 2:22 PM, LoooSeR said: Sherman of the smoker, Pacific fleet parade, Vladivostok. Reveal hidden contents So that's a tank that spent 70 years underwater? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 6 hours ago, Jeeps_Guns_Tanks said: So that's a tank that spent 70 years underwater? I posted 2 tanks that were found underwater iirc. This one probably should have spend more time there to avoid being "restored" in such way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 14 hours ago, Jeeps_Guns_Tanks said: So that's a tank that spent 70 years underwater? Two weeks with the Navy did more damage than 70 years underwater Jeeps_Guns_Tanks, Gurth and Bronezhilet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 On 7/16/2018 at 5:57 AM, Jeeps_Guns_Tanks said: The biggest problem with written direction really is when it does not get read. Comparing US Army TMs from the 1940s–60s to those of the 1980s and beyond shows this very clearly: the former have walls of text with airbrushed photographs showing the main things to do (and the older the manual, the fewer the photos), the latter mainly have line drawings that illustrate every little step in the procedure, with relatively short bits of explanatory text to go with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiedzmin Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 2:53 AM, Jeeps_Guns_Tanks said: I've never heard of the part being bronze before, and since its a gun mount, the part is not in the G104 parts lists, so I don't have a good description of the part either. I'll ask over on the Sherman mailing list and see if they have any idea. at least on M4A4 tested by brits it was bronze, and seems to be bronze on some restored tanks AT.100 Ballistic test of hull and turret of general Sherman tank (courtesy of Fu_Manchu) btw maybe you know exact thickness of bow MG shield ? Bronezhilet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 Ooh, very interesting photograph. Do you have other results from that test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelm Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 was this one ever posted? Spoiler Chase vehicle at 4:34 shows the speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 75 mm gun with a cast hull, but a travel clamp in the front? If I'm not mistaken, that's a Grizzly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogDodger Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 Could be. Pacific Car & Foundry also mounted travel locks on their M4A1s starting in August 1943. PacCar tanks had a rounded rear lower hull plate, but the video's low resolution and the modifications to the tank are making it unclear to my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted August 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2018 7 hours ago, whelm said: was this one ever posted? Hide contents Chase vehicle at 4:34 shows the speed I love that video. How often do you get to a Sherman hauling ass down a road, I wouldn't be surprised if NO other Sherman owner gets their tank out of second gear, and would be actually surprised if any ran them at max speed, in fifth like these guys did! Hell, the music isn't even horribly annoying, and they stop it later in the video! It a shame really, mechanical things like to be used, and getting the engine up to speed, and keeping it there is good for them. Same with the Tranny and powertrain, heat that gear oil up and really get it moving around! Who wants to see a tanking puttering along at walking speed, like they are afraid it's going to break down like some German tank, I wanna see them hauling ass!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelm Posted August 3, 2018 Report Share Posted August 3, 2018 18 hours ago, EnsignExpendable said: 75 mm gun with a cast hull, but a travel clamp in the front? If I'm not mistaken, that's a Grizzly! An M4A1 of some kind for sure, but going by the single piece lower front and the larger rear plate I think it was originally a late M4A1 hull. Either way should be rocking a Radial in that thing unless they modified it to take something else. Doesn't seem to have an info about what it was using and I tried and failed to see if I could find more on that specific tank but no luck. The video was apparently made to show off the new tracks they had made. Would be interesting to know if they played around with the engine at all or is it stock to get those speeds. M3/M4's had it governed to 2100 rpm? I believe and 2400 rpm could be done for short periods. Interestingly the Canadians seemed to like to push the R-975 harder in the Ram then the US did in the M3 and M4, I'm unsure if this applied to the Grizzly as well. Ram I and early II's Normal engine speed 2200 rpm (M3's during this period 2100 rpm) May run at 2400 rpm in emergency In later Ram II's the manual (1943) states the engine is now governed at 2400 rpm with a surge of 100-150 rpm allowed. This is backed up with the memo from Oct 1943 stating the Ram was faster on roadways then the M4A1 due to being governed at a higher rpm. Probably also why the manual and other sources state it's sustained cruising speed is 25 mph while in the M4 it's 21 mph. No idea on actual max but probably peaked at about 30 mph if you look at newspaper articles from the period that state 30mph max, a few tests they did like the Horstman suspension test checking deflection (27 mph tested) towing the 17 pdr (28 mph tested) the sexton (governed to 27 mph) Ram M10 spec sheet (30 mph short periods) it's clear it's higher for short periods then 25 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogDodger Posted August 3, 2018 Report Share Posted August 3, 2018 The engine doors and exhaust pipes have definitely been changed, fwiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted August 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 It sure sounds like an R975 to me. The gear ratios in the Sherman and Grizzly are the same, so the only speed differences would come from the Engine RPM Governer, and who knows how the one on that tank is set, assuming its and R975, and R975 powered Shermans are still pretty common. They complicated all mechanical little contraptions with weights and springs and finding people who even know what one is, in today's day and age is almost a miracle. I'm pretty sure even back when these tanks were new, the governors were not something the crew was allowed to mess with. If it broke, they took it off, sent it back for repair and put a repaired one on, that was delivered on a truck and came from a parts depot. I'm going to have to watch again and really look the back end over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelm Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Looking at the rear dogdodger is correct the exhausts have been lowered quite a bit. as for the tampering None of these orders seemed to stop crews, every month or so there's a new order or such in the war diaries about how crews keep speeding heavily and it needs to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted August 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Yeah, it probably varied a lot unit to unit how much they tolerated. Back then Officers could make things pretty miserable for men who blatantly broke the rules. Once in combat they would have less time to care, but I bet tampering was way less common in units still in the US training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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