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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/09/defense-patrick-shanahan-boeing-pentagon-1064203

 

Shanahan wants in on the thread title.

 

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In high-level Pentagon meetings, Shanahan has heavily criticized Lockheed Martin’s handling of the production of the F-35 fighter jet, which is expected to cost more than $1 trillion over the life of the program, according to one of the two sources, a former senior Defense Department official who was present.

 

Shanahan, this official said, called the plane “f---ed up” and argued that Lockheed — which edged out Boeing to win the competition to build the plane in October 2001 — “doesn’t know how to run a program.”

 

“If it had gone to Boeing, it would be done much better,” Shanahan said, according to the former official

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As the Pentagon's No. 2, Shanahan repeatedly "dumped" on the F-35 in meetings, calling the program "unsustainable," and slammed Lockheed Martin's CEO, Marillyn Hewson, according to the second source, a former Trump administration official. "'The cost, the out-years, it's just too expensive, we're not gonna be able to sustain it,'" this person said, quoting Shanahan.

 

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https://www.janes.com/article/86100/germany-eliminates-f-35-from-tornado-replacement-race

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Germany eliminates F-35 from Tornado-replacement race

Germany has cut the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter from the list of options for its Tornado replacement programme, Ministry of Defence (MoD) sources disclosed on 31 January.

The Luftwaffe had been considering the F-35A as one of five potential replacement platforms for its fleet of 90 Panavia Tornado aircraft. However, a Bundeswehr source has told Reuters that it will now look at just the Eurofighter Typhoon and Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet instead (the Super Hornet is being offered in conjunction with the EA-18G Growler electronic attack aircraft, while the Boeing F-15 Advanced Eagle that was offered also appears from the source’s comments to have been discounted).

 

That's an odd choice, F-35 looks like an ideal tornado replacement

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3 hours ago, Xlucine said:

https://www.janes.com/article/86100/germany-eliminates-f-35-from-tornado-replacement-race

 

That's an odd choice, F-35 looks like an ideal tornado replacement

 

Mostly a political choice.

Buying an American plane when you are trying to build a self reliant European defence industry send the wrong message, and currently the F-35 is the symbol of the American clutch on European defence.

Also Germany being part of the SCAF program, should the program stay on track the F-35 would have a service life of around 10-15 years before starting  to be replaced in the German army.

 

On the other hand Germany still want to keep it's B61 (which is also purely symbolic given that those weapons are mostly outdated, and under a double key system), and since it would take between 7 and 10 years to green-light the the eurofighter to carry it, at this point the Super Hornet is almost guaranteed to win (yes it's also an American plane, but not as high profile as the F-35).

Add on top of that the argument used to reject the F-35 was that you could "replace" stealth by escorting your bomber with a decent EW plane (whether or not this is a valid argument) and you have another point for the F/A-18

 

http://www.opex360.com/2019/02/02/lallemagne-ecarte-le-f-35a-et-le-f-15-pour-remplacer-ses-chasseurs-bombardiers-tornado/

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Unconfirmed reports that an Israeli F-35 killed a Chinese radar in Syria; https://defence-blog.com/news/source-israeli-f-35-destroyed-chinese-made-radar-during-airstrikes-in-syria.html

 



Last month, an Israeli satellite imagery analysis company ImageSat confirmed that Chinese-made JY-27 radar of the Syrian Air Defense at Damascus airport destroyed by Israeli airstrikes on January 20th.

No airstrike details were given and the quoted ImageSat did also not contain any further information but some source said that radar was destroyed by Israeli F-35i Adir fighter jets.

The source claims that F-35i Adir fighter jet of the Israeli Air Force has destroyed Chinese design JY-27 radar of the Syrian Air Defense near Damascus International Airport on 20 January.
 
 
 

The JY-27 radar of the Chinese manufacturer CETC is a fully solid-state and fully coherent long-range early warning system. It is designed and developed to provide early warning information and detect low-observable air targets in so-called “Stealth technology”, included F-35 and F-22 fighter aircraft. Besides, it provides the early warning information for weapons system as well.

 

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