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8 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

Budget cuts 3 with Arena-M and Nakidka radar a nd therma tank blanket, heh.

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And still no CITV 

 

Is there any real reason why they still don't give the B3 a proper commander night sight when they put APS on it?

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Yuri Pasholok's photos of Object 781 variant B. According to placard it had crew of 7 (!).

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   Turret weapons same as on BMP-3 (100 mm 2A70 gun-launcher + 30 mm 2A72 AC+ PKT) + 30 mm Balkan AGL + PKT in RCWS. Add here AGL in hull + 2 MG gunners on hull sides, vehicle was capable of firing at 6 directions in the same time.

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3 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

https://yuripasholok.livejournal.com/13716017.html

Yuri Pasholok's photos of Object 781 variant B. According to placard it had crew of 7 (!).

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   Turret weapons same as on BMP-3 (100 mm 2A70 gun-launcher + 30 mm 2A72 AC+ PKT) + 30 mm Balkan AGL + PKT in RCWS. Add here AGL in hull + 2 MG gunners on hull sides, vehicle was capable of firing at 6 directions in the same time.

   Hull is modded T-72 chassis.

 

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Turret layout reminds me of begleitpanzer, though reversed. Any reason they chose to drop one side but not the other side? 

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On 2/20/2022 at 5:46 AM, Lord_James said:


Turret layout reminds me of begleitpanzer, though reversed. Any reason they chose to drop one side but not the other side? 

No idea, but i would like to see crew stations layout and how crew was placed inside, fitting 7 people inside of chonk-72 hull is not that easy.

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1 hour ago, Volke said:

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Seems the cages aren't that useless in the end, it detonated the top attack missile before it could reach the crew compartment and so only the fuel tank next to turret got ignited.

I think these cages are actually useful against NLAWs due to NLAWs fly pattern (look closer you will find out those turret top ERAs didn't suffer much of a damage, I could be wrong), but maybe kind of useless against Javleins? Besides, I didn't see a single Javelin launch video or UKR troop carrying Javelins over the internet yet... I wonder did they ever managed to use those?

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2 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

I think these cages are actually useful against NLAWs due to NLAWs fly pattern (look closer you will find out those turret top ERAs didn't suffer much of a damage, I could be wrong), but maybe kind of useless against Javleins? Besides, I didn't see a single Javelin launch video or UKR troop carrying Javelins over the internet yet... I wonder did they ever managed to use those?

Yeah im pretty sure it was attacked by NLAW, as on picture we can see that the projectile came from the side, not from top, as for Javelins, indeed they didn't seem to appear yet. Quite interesting why we see no footage of em.

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36 minutes ago, Volke said:

Yeah im pretty sure it was attacked by NLAW, as on picture we can see that the projectile came from the side, not from top, as for Javelins, indeed they didn't seem to appear yet. Quite interesting why we see no footage of em.

I also suspect the missing turret era and side fuel tank fire were from different attack attempts by RPG-7 or Konkurs ATGM. Can we identify wether this T-72 is B3 variant or simply 1989 variant? Another 1989 variant I saw today was not as lucky as this one.

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4 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

I think these cages are actually useful against NLAWs due to NLAWs fly pattern (look closer you will find out those turret top ERAs didn't suffer much of a damage, I could be wrong), but maybe kind of useless against Javleins? Besides, I didn't see a single Javelin launch video or UKR troop carrying Javelins over the internet yet... I wonder did they ever managed to use those?


How long have they had those javelins? I only heard about them recently, and if no one is trained with them (and they are complex systems) then we might not see them yet. 

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30 minutes ago, Lord_James said:


How long have they had those javelins? I only heard about them recently, and if no one is trained with them (and they are complex systems) then we might not see them yet. 

Couple of months maybe? I thought that thing was pretty easy to use? Or I've just played too much ArmA...

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10 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

I also suspect the missing turret era and side fuel tank fire were from different attack attempts by RPG-7 or Konkurs ATGM. Can we identify wether this T-72 is B3 variant or simply 1989 variant? Another 1989 variant I saw today was not as lucky as this one.

On the picture i posted it is a T-72B obr.1989 you can very quickly verify that by the fact it has the IR emitter on the right side of the barrel. As for why the K5 is missing there. NLAW has a directional downward facing warhead. So when it detonated on the metal contraption the stream passed thru frontal K5 that we see missing, the weakned stream damaged the fuel tank igniting it, and so we got that photo instead of a new photo of a T-72B wreck.

 

The entire idea with these "roofs" is just an extremely cheap way so that the tank has those "slighlty higher" chances of survival against modern anti tank solutions. And while it won't work every time, it is so cheap, that if it works once in 10 times it is good enough.

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