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Ukrainian armor - Oplot-M, T-64M Bulat and other.


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More photos of Azovets Naziwagon.

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Rear doors, looks like:

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Possibly an APU is in this rear left sponson.

 

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Upper ERA is Duplet (Nozh x2) and lower is simple Nozh module.

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Side ERA is Nozh modules

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Camers for observation. Note that there is no optics for crew to use.

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Another camera

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Rear camera

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Frontal cameras

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Hadn't seen this posted here before:

 

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"Object 478DU"

 

A weird hybrid of T-80 hull and T-64 roadwheels.  At least I think it's a T-80 hull, based on roadwheel spacing and I think you can just barely see triple driver periscopes.

It was pitched to Pakistan, apparently.

I've heard a plausible explanation for this strange beast.  It has to do with the breakup of the USSR.

 

Remember how many Russian weapons systems became hard to maintain and produce because suddenly important parts were in different countries?  NSV 12.7 machine guns came from Kazakhstan, SU-25 plant ended up in Georgia, AN-124 engines made in Ukraine...

 

Well, it was even worse for Ukraine.  They had the plant that could do final assembly of T-80s, but they could not source all of the necessary parts.  So they came up with a T-80 that substituted some T-64 parts.

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   Guess what? New Dozor-B light armored car have... problems. Out of 10 build (first serial-produced vehicles), 2 already have cracks in armor, 3rd will have them soon (signs appeared). Armor plates were made in Poland (Armastal 500).

 

http://apostrophe.com.ua/article/society/2016-04-05/bronya-dala-treschinu-pochemu-boevaya-mashina-dozor-b-ne-popadet-v-armiyu/4131

 

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Why does an ostensibly unmanned turret need a fume extractor?

Some day I would like to know how they screwed up the suspension on the T-64.  The idea of bar-in-tube torsion bars such as the T-64 uses was considered quite attractive in the West, and was offered as an upgrade for M60s.  In theory it's a better system, but the T-64 is the only in-service tank I know of that actually has such suspension, and apparently it works poorly enough that Soviet designers never contemplated going back.

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My assumption is that the gun isn't anything new.  Not sure if the text says anything on the matter.

   Text doesn't adress this. I assume that they will use a gun from that poor T-64, which they will upgrade. Azov engineering group use what they can, and gun for unmanned turret is not a weapon that they can get. Chassis looks to be Azovets.

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   Guess what? New Dozor-B light armored car have... problems. Out of 10 build (first serial-produced vehicles), 2 already have cracks in armor, 3rd will have them soon (signs appeared). Armor plates were made in Poland (Armastal 500).

 

http://apostrophe.com.ua/article/society/2016-04-05/bronya-dala-treschinu-pochemu-boevaya-mashina-dozor-b-ne-popadet-v-armiyu/4131

 

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The same armour plates are used in APC Rosomak ( polonisated AMV whit Hitfist-30P turret) -without problem. More or less acording to polish sources the problem is shitty technical culture in ukrainian factor - precisly - bad heating and cooling armour plate before and after welding. In case modern ARMSTAL and ARMOX plate there are some diffrences during welding preapering proces...

 

Exacly the same problem had (un)famosu BTR-3 for Iraq - cracking armour plates...now Dozor-B (which is polish "Mista"/Ocilla project...).

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