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What Kharkov tank repair factory had in its storage area before conflict started in 2014.

 

At moment before 2014, Kharkov BTRZ had:

T-64 tanks of various modifications ≈ 230;
T-72 tanks of various modifications ≈ 140;
T-80 tanks of various modifications ≈ 80.

 

Storage area:

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T-72s:

Around 80-90 tanks in this part.

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~30 tanks in that part:

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Around 20 T-72s here:

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Up to 150 T-72s

 

T-80s:

about 50 T-80s:

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Additional 30 T-80s in that triangle part:

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around 80 T-0s in total.

 

T-64s:

Up to 118 T-64s:

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up to 50 T-64s:

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and at least 60 T-64s in those 2 areas:

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Up to 230 T-64s

 

Difference between 2014 and 2016:

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Up to 140 T-72s, majority of T-80s (60) are no longer present in storage area. Difference in T-64 numbers is not big - around 20-30 vehicles.

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LBTZ will probably stop production of Dozor-B light armored car because factory don't have money to buy parts and even pay all salaries. LBTZ didn't payed 2.15 mil hrivans to Kharkov Tractor factory for some of Dozor-B parts, for example.

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Source - Main Kharkovite and here

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Ukrainian package delivery company (Novaya Pochta) storage area for some reason have 2 BM-7 Parus RCWS for BTR-4s. The caption to the photo states that the sender  is Zhytomyr Armored vehicle factory, and the recipient - Kharkiv Machine Building Design Bureau named after Morozov.

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On 03.11.2016 at 11:34 AM, LoooSeR said:

It looks like rumors about Oplot not having composite/layered armor in its UFP are true.

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UFP armor module is duplet ERA blocks and steelplate between them.

 

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Duplet side armor modules parts:

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Side armor plates:

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Turret:

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Yes it's true - it's just rumors

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Interesting post on Tanknet about a VK group discussing the pros and cons of various tanks in the Ukraine conflict:

 

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1) Starting the 5TDF engine in winter under normal conditions (presence of compressed air) does not constitute a major difficulty. The engine heater is run for 5 minutes.

 

2) The FCS 1A33 "Ob" used in T-64B/BV shows more than satisfactory accuracy. In terms of accuracy and ease of use it far exceeds the 1A40 used in T-72B. Kurt does not consider T-72B a proper tank because 1A40 is obsolete.

 

3) T-72B has better performance than T-64BV (accelerates faster etc) but is worst in terms of flotability and mobility in mud. This is a known issue in T-72, and is related to the track design. On the other hand it had the best mobility in rocky and sandy soils. The issue was solved in T-72BA, which received a new track.

 

4) The fastening of the Kontakt-1 ERA screens in the sides does not last longer than a week in both vehicles in conditions of intensive use. In the T-72 the screens are a bit more resistant but the tear offs are easier to replace in the T-64BV.

 

5) The remote firing machine gun is a big advantage (despite the Kharkov construction deficiencies), as in a normal setup no one wants to get exposed to enemy bullets to fire the machine gun.

 

6) 28 shells in the autoloader are enough for combat

 

7) With proper maintenance the reliability of the T-64BV is not inferior to the T-72B. The issues of T-64BV reliability were associated with the terrible condition in which the tanks are coming from factories “I picked up a couple of tanks in storage. The first impression is like a swallow, but inside is just scrap; half of the equipment is rotten. The piping requires many repairs. "забирал с консервации пару машин,вся вікрашена как с музея,на вид просто ласточка,а внутри просто жесть,половина деталей тупо сгнило,ремонта много требует,все патрубки перегнили от солярі и к воздуху просто пустота.

 

The reliability of both chassis was satisfactory.

 

8) The weak point of T-64 is the cooling system of the engine. The operating temperature is 105°C. At 110°C it overheats. At 115-117°C it chokes and engine liner twists (это клин, выворачивает вкладыши).

 

During this summer, the crews were forced to turn on the heating inside the fighting compartment, as this opens a flap connected to the engine compartment, diverting some of the heat. The tank then becomes a mobile sauna. Crews almost strip to the underwear but still sweat and sweat. This has been confirmed. There is no problem in the T-72.

 

9) T-64B had good serviceability, which was especially useful given the deplorable state of vehicles in storage areas of Ukrainian Armed Forces. Crews were able to solve most of the problems in the field (no discussion on this issue took place).

 

In general, both tankers had a positive impression of T-64, Kurt preferred the T-64 over T-72

A little more detail on the condition of Ukrainian Army tanks:

 

Due to the poor quality repairs the night sights in the majority of them did not work. If one out of 10 did work we were lucky. A night battle can only be conducted using flares and other illumination techniques.

The loading mechanism “chewed” the projectile sleeves due to problems with the oil.

The engine repairs failed almost every day. There were a lot of problems with the geabox. All this aggravates the problems mentioned in point 8. “в обороне жить можно,в наступлении плохо,пока доедим сто раз перегрееться или масле со всех дыр 

 

And a couple of words about other stuff - additional fuel tanks are not used, external in the B / D (sides?) are not filled.

 

https://vk.com/oldfag_tm

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   It appears that Otoman 8x8 designed by "Praktika" is just BTR-60 with changes in upper hull and new engine, at least claimed by BMPD and "Jane's International Defense Review" in the article by Huw Williams "Practika details Otaman upgrade".

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   "Otaman 8x8" keeps the chassis and floor of the BTR-60, but is equipped with a new armored hull and a new power plant. The new steel armored hull should have a ballistic protection standard of STANAG 4569 level II. The floor is reinforced with an additional layer of protection. Iveco diesel engine 238 hp. (Torque 1020 Nm) is located in the front right, the transmission is hydromechanical. Amphibian capabilities are preserved.

   NPO Practica offers the creation of a whole range of armored vehicles on the basis of Otaman 8x8, including various combat modules and turrets with 90-mm or 105-mm cannons. "Working model" of "Otaman 8x8", apparently, will be equipped with the combat module BM-3 "Storm" with a 30-mm cannon ZTM-1.

 

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About a week ago Kozak-2 was accepted to service in UAF.

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   In fact, this is the first car of this class, adopted by the Ukrainian army in the history of the state's independence. And what is especially telling is that the new armored car was developed and serially produced in a private enterprise - at the Kiev NGO "Praktika", which is part of the League of Defense Enterprises of Ukraine.

Dozor-B is still not accepted to service.

 

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