Iran Nuclear Deal

[Priory_of_Sion]

Can't wait for gas prices to drop lower from the deal. 

 

Also here are some supporters of the deal.

 

Here are some IDF guys who also think this deal is pretty good. They must just want to be marched into an oven. 

 

Edit: The former president of the group, United Against Nuclear Iran, also stepped down as he could oppose the deal. link

 

I tend to trust these guys on this kind of stuff over Graham and Schumer. 

[Collimatrix]

It's Christmas early in Tehran, courtesy of the Great Santa.

[Toxn]

I love that the reason so many politicians in the US are getting pissy is basically "we didn't get what we want, in every detail".

 

This era of international politics; where the US's stance to non-allied countries has basically been 'do everything we say, and even then we might come on and fuck up your country on a technicality'; has certainly done wonders for international peace and stability.

 

Edit: this shit, and the thinking behind it, scares me deeply. Hopefully it's not a consensus opinion within war planning circles.

[Donward]

The issue is that even the most short-sighted liberal politician understands this deal is just so much wet ink on paper which has zero weight. It gives the Administration a nice Selfie to post on their Facebook page as they focus on Social Justice and Climate Change.

[CrashbotUS]

twist's pantie's

 

21st century America. 

 

 

No place for our kind anymore. 

[Toxn]

The issue is that even the most short-sighted liberal politician understands this deal is just so much wet ink on paper which has zero weight. It gives the Administration a nice Selfie to post on their Facebook page as they focus on Social Justice and Climate Change.

Didn't help that your own senate (house? Fuck, whatever) seems determined to make the Iranians aware of the fact that the U.S. now considers binding international agreements (at least, those that don't involve trade or IP) about as binding as wet tissue paper. 

 

Who on the other side would see this as the actions of a fair and disinterested party, rather than a prelude to war?

[FaustianQ]

The issue is that even the most short-sighted liberal politician understands this deal is just so much wet ink on paper which has zero weight. It gives the Administration a nice Selfie to post on their Facebook page as they focus on Social Justice and Climate Change.

 

I think the more amusing scenario would have been the US not participating in forming the treaty, Iran getting even more favorable terms with Russians and Chinese arms manufacturers, and getting pretty much 90% of the trade it needed while the US misses out on developing a nonvolatile relationship with Iran. The deal is better than basically every other achievable outcome.

[Donward]

Binding international agreements? Yeah. Fuck that. The US Senate has to approve treaties. It's one of the things they still do that is actually Constitutional (Article 2, Section 2, Clause 2). It's to prevent some yokel from going off and getting snookered on the International scene without the representatives of the People ( originally representatives of each sovereign State legislature) having some recourse.

As for the Chinese, fuck them too. If they want to sleep with Ayatollahs and Best Korea, let them. In the meantime, our leaders should be dumping a pollution tariff on every piece of crap that comes out of China until they clean up their act environmentally or until they go tits upeconomically. But some scum on Wall Street might lose money on one of their hedge funds so we can't have that.

[FaustianQ]

Binding international agreements? Yeah. Fuck that. The US Senate has to approve treaties. It's one of the things they still do that is actually Constitutional (Article 2, Section 2, Clause 2). It's to prevent some yokel from going off and getting snookered on the International scene without the representatives of the People ( originally representatives of each sovereign State legislature) having some recourse.

As for the Chinese, fuck them too. If they want to sleep with Ayatollahs and Best Korea, let them. In the meantime, our leaders should be dumping a pollution tariff on every piece of crap that comes out of China until they clean up their act environmentally or until they go tits upeconomically. But some scum on Wall Street might lose money on one of their hedge funds so we can't have that.

 

I don't see the point in getting mad at executive agreements in this case. Moving to treaty would have resulted in something unworkable, the US excluding itself from the deal, and Iran getting 90% of what it wants with basically no concessions.

 

China desperately wants Best Korea to die. They're a cancerous appendix and the only reason China doesn't do something now is, yes, a humanitarian/refugee crisis. The US/Better Korea in the case of reopened warfare, won't make it to Pyongyang because the Chinese will already be there. As far as Iran though, China wants to compete with Russia for influence, and promises of arms and funding in exchange for oil and gas and regional influence. To let China and Russia do this is a huge security risk to US interests and can't be ignored. In fact, it'd be beyond negligent to do so while Iran is starting to face it's millennial demographic crisis which is pushing it away from China and Russia - literally defeat from jaws of victory there.

 

China is cleaning up it's act actually, but shit like the overhyped Fukushima disaster actually slowed China down in nuclear development (fuck hippies). Those hedge fund managers though? Getting their shit wrecked as China's economy implodes while the US is on the upswing. The US is actually in a good vantage point to refocus the world economy on itself since it'd actually be the least hurt (like .5% reduce growth at best) by China imploding, making America a safe haven again for physical investment and tremendously boosting the US economy post Chinese collapse. China can't even pull devaluement shenanigans to up trade, because the collapse has more to do with internal economic factors (their workers being treated like shit, the pollution, the vast overvaluing of property and businesses, etc).

[Toxn]

I love that the reason so many politicians in the US are getting pissy is basically "we didn't get what we want, in every detail".

 

This era of international politics; where the US's stance to non-allied countries has basically been 'do everything we say, and even then we might come on and fuck up your country on a technicality'; has certainly done wonders for international peace and stability.

 

Edit: this shit, and the thinking behind it, scares me deeply. Hopefully it's not a consensus opinion within war planning circles.

 

God I'm good - this is apparently sinister provocation, while the above is merely innocent naval (hurr) gazing.

[Donward]

God I'm good - this is apparently sinister provocation, while the above is merely innocent naval (hurr) gazing.

 

What? The Chinese came up with their own Red Dawn remake while their navy was up by Alaska last week in order to somehow intimidate President Obama?

 

Do they know who they are dealing with?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9PMfaoANJI

 

Yes. That's a salmon cumming milting on the Commander in Chief.

[FaustianQ]

Newest Republican attempt to increase the proliferation of nuclear arms.