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Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front


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6 hours ago, mr.T said:

Javelins and NLAW on both sides as captured gear gets transfered to Donbas militias

 

Russian manual on Javelin

https://vk.com/doc578708034_632152242?hash=ac5ff774d7fd534941&dl=497e5263594ac6b29a

 

https://vk.com/video-77993266_456250393


Looks like Russia might finally get a 3rd gen ATGM, @LoooSeR :P 

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The "Dramteatr" "Drama Theater" in central Mariupol has been hit by an airstrike. Moscow denies having carried out the attack. It was used to shelter hundreds of civilians. Lots of young children.

I must say I find it very far fetched to believe that the Ukrainians would have done it either by mistake (since the theater is in central Mariupol, where there are no reports of any hostile targets for the Ukrainians to have been aiming at) or on purpose( it makes no sense that the Azov battalion would have done it, since Mariupol is still held by Ukraine, albeit surrounded). Unfortunately, I also find it hard to believe that it was hit by accident by either side, since it is a very peculiar and visible building with open space around it. Civilians have been giving interviews from the theatre, so it was probably well known that it was being used as a shelter. There are also satellite pictures floating around where it is clearly seen that the word "дети" was written in giant letters on both side of the building.

Here is a video allegedly filmed some time this week. The Source is the western friendly Nexta, but it looks very legit to me. This would be a lot of people to gather up as crisis actors...

One must conclude that this is a Russian attempt at motivating Kiev to yield in the ongoing negotiations.

 

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A picture from yesterday

 

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A picture from today

 

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4 hours ago, watch_your_fire said:

 

Russian tank completely unsupported in Mariupol gets hit twice presumably by a TB-2. One crew escapes in bad shape.

It even got hit three times.
First hit pulled the track,
Second @0:33 on the turretroof above TC and went through, gunner's smashs open for a moment and you can see the flames/flash.
Third hit @ 0:43.It's not the same from an other perspective because gunner and drivers hatch are already opened (while both went heads down again after opening it. Furthermore it's a bigger boom than the ones before and somewhere in the back of the tank. Last hint ist the bloody mess which appears out of the smoke on the right lane.

With the last explosion @ 0:59 which was a close call for the disembarked driver and the first which missed the tank we have 5 explosions and a single TB-2 has only 4 hardpoints as far as I know. Time between the hit's is hard to guess because of the cuts, but a TB-2 at operational altitude is limited by 9,81m/s² with MAM-L/C.
So maybe a TB-2 was part of this but probably not alone. 

Edit: LoooSeRed by an hour or so ^^

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2 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

T-64BV on the video, this is DPR tank. AFAIK claimed to be arty or mortars.

This would be frightening accurate indirect fire If they aren't using the expensive guided stuff. And the impcat @0:43 is quite a bit beefier compared to the rest.

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2 hours ago, Cobras said:

Wow a thing that has a gen 1 hardkill APS with only 60-120d frontal turret arc protection got destroyed...

That APS was not working at the time, most of subsystems are not even mounted on a tank.

 

Same tank during Zapad-2021
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Was used as a testbed/showcase for Drozd APS, later was transefered to Kantemirovskaya with some of guts of APS taken out and rest of mounted equipment left on a tank.

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6 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

That APS was not working at the time, most of subsystems are not even mounted on a tank.

 

Same tank during Zapad-2021
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Was used as a testbed/showcase for Drozd APS, later was transefered to Kantemirovskaya with some of guts of APS taken out and rest of mounted equipment left on a tank.

The APS launchers on this photo are kinda smaller than the OG Drozd I know. Edit: nevermind they are not mounted, weird mount for the launch tubes thou.

Btw how do you know they were not mounted at the time? and most kills on russian tanks in Ukraine are from side shots, a working Drozd would have not saved them.

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3 hours ago, Alzoc said:

At least several Russian units were/are apparently communicating on unencrypted frequencies :huh:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html

 

Which may be an explanation as to why so many Russian generals have been killed (5 as of now).

Snake Island 2: Electric Boogaloo?

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17 hours ago, Alzoc said:

At least several Russian units were/are apparently communicating on unencrypted frequencies :huh:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html

 

Which may be an explanation as to why so many Russian generals have been killed (5 as of now).

I only know of 1 (Navy fleet one that died near Mariupol recently).

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