General AFV Thread

[Sturgeon]

That is some thin armor:

 

[Walter_Sobchak]

If you want a google maps file of every AFV on display in the US, click here and then click on "The US Afv register by Paul Hannah(Google earth)"

[SH_MM]

Very "rare" such an internal view... it's not like there are hundreds of photographs of the internals of the Leopard 1 (including cut-through tanks) available.

[Scolopax]

Album with lots of things by Mowag

[Walter_Sobchak]

Album with lots of things by Mowag

That album is by Massimo Foti, he is a regular over at the AFV News Discussion Board.  He has a large number of really good photo galleries of stuff from all over Europe.  

 

That dude that wrote the "For want of a gun" book on the Sherman is advertising it as containing photos by Massimo.

[LoooSeR]

Ariete sides and rear. Are those engines exhausts covering almost whole engine compertment sides?

[LoooSeR]

A bit of South African Might.

"Bismark", 45-55 tons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looks like it is tested for Kazakhstan, with Baikal turret.

[Scolopax]

Ariete sides and rear. Are those engines exhausts covering almost whole engine compertment sides?

Looks like exhaust is two ports in the back like the Leopard 2

 

[Belesarius]

[SH_MM]

Looks like it is tested for Kazakhstan, with Baikal turret.

According to Russian Defence-Blog.com, this is the wheeled Barys IFV. It is claimed to be a new development and not directly related to the Bismarck. It is developed by the Paramount Group of South Africa. Their websites calls it the "Mbombe 8". Given the poor armor (ballistic protection according to STANAG 4569 level 3) and low maximum (gross vehicle) weight of only 28 tonnes according to the press release, I would assume that there is no relation to the Bismarck "wheeled tank".

 

The current Boxer A2 as Combat Reconnaisance Vehicle has a maximum gross vehicle weight of 38.5 tonnes and ballistic protection according to level 6 of STANAG 4569.

[LoooSeR]

According to Russian Defence-Blog.com, this is the wheeled Barys IFV. It is claimed to be a new development and not directly related to the Bismarck. It is developed by the Paramount Group of South Africa. Their websites calls it the "Mbombe 8". Given the poor armor (ballistic protection according to STANAG 4569 level 3) and low maximum (gross vehicle) weight of only 28 tonnes according to the press release, I would assume that there is no relation to the Bismarck "wheeled tank".

 

The current Boxer A2 as Combat Reconnaisance Vehicle has a maximum gross vehicle weight of 38.5 tonnes and ballistic protection according to level 6 of STANAG 4569.

I just noticed that "it is tested in..." part implied something i didn't wanted to say - i know that Barys is not connected to Bismark in any way outside of both having wheels.

[Mighty_Zuk]

Barys has a really disproportional firepower to protection ratio.

[LoooSeR]

57 mm is much better option vs infantry than 30 mm, so it is hard to ignore new compact unmanned turret module with 57 mm autocannon and programmable HE-frag ammunition.

[Mighty_Zuk]

57 mm is much better option vs infantry than 30 mm, so it is hard to ignore new compact unmanned turret module with 57 mm autocannon and programmable HE-frag ammunition.

 

 

57mm is just too much. 

It occupies a lot of space, it has low ammo quantity unless you let it occupy even more space (not a good feature for wheeled 8x8 AFVs), and in many cases it's an overkill. Believe it or not but some militaries do try to prevent such overkills. 

40mm has more than sufficient firepower and more capacity. 

 

With that armor rating I'd say it will let the dismounts walk a good distance before they reach the combat zone, then go snipe from some far away ditch because it cannot even handle HMGs. 

[Walter_Sobchak]

This is pretty cool.

 

[Toxn]

A bit of South African Might.

"Bismark", 45-55 tons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looks like it is tested for Kazakhstan, with Baikal turret.

 

More on Bismarck et al:

http://www.saairforce.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?t=505

[Toxn]

One of those 'what if' moments in history: a tank by 1910:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3dZ-xYZ8g8

[LoooSeR]

 

Taliban fighters in #Afghanistan province of #Helmand using captured #Afghan National Army M1152A1 B2 Humvee..

[LoooSeR]

More on Bismarck et al:

http://www.saairforce.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?t=505

No pictures, 0/10. 

[Toxn]

No pictures, 0/10. 

If I'm ever near the armour school in Bloem I'll take some photos of it.

[LoooSeR]

 

Iraqi Built Armed Robotic Vehicles to take part in Mosul battles.

Video

[Donward]

Video

Will the robots be programmed to surrender to a bunch of guys in a Toyota HiLux pickup without firing a shot?

[Priory_of_Sion]

Will the robots be programmed to surrender to a bunch of guys in a Toyota HiLux pickup without firing a shot?

It's a long Iraqi army tradition 

[Scolopax]

The Normandy Tank Museum is apparently selling off its collection and closing.

[Walter_Sobchak]

The Normandy Tank Museum is apparently selling off its collection and closing.

Just so you know, Tank and AFV News.com had reported on it back on July 26.  That's right folks, trust Walter to get you all your tank news before you hear it from the mainstream media.