Syrian conflict.

[Mighty_Zuk]

1 hour ago, LoooSeR said:

 Please, this is laughable. Israel never striked any Al-Mukowama personal or Iranian army personal in Syria. "Keeping such arms away from Hezbollah"... when chlorine became such a rare chemical that you can track it? It's like as viable as tracking mortar rounds trafficking from Turkey. It is not that hard to get, in Eastern Ghouta you can find it without much of problems:

 

Not the actual substance. That would be impossible unless you're talking about something really high profile like Sarin. 

I'm talking about this incident. The site was holding large quantities of long range rockets and it was about to be transferred to Hezbollah control. It was also widely believed to be an R&D facility for chemical weapons, and the existence of rockets in there suggests they were supposed to integrate these long range rockets with chemical warheads in a proper way. Not half assed like the example below.

Iranian personnel, at least, were reported to have been killed in the February strike on the T4 base as well, when the IAF targeted the drones that came from there, as well as the control room.

 

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 ANNA news in 2013 did a report speaking about militants using tube bombs filled with chlorine, militants during Aleppo liberation used it in their mortar shells, ISIS used it against Iraqis and Syrians on number of occasions.

ISIS-made launcher for shells filled with toxic chemicals.

 

It is possible to do, but these are mortars after all, and short range rockets. Integration with longer range rockets is the main concern here.

 

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 I am not speaking about how Iranians managed to sneak ATGMs like Toophans, SPG-armed jeeps, or Iranian T-72S with Kataib Hezbollah and so on to Islamic Resistance through such great Israeli intelligence service that can track couple of bottles of Chlorine. I am not even speaking much about Armored vehicles corps in Quseir that Al-Mukowama use for training their AFV crews for several years, and not far from Israel.

 

These are all very unimportant weapons. When Israeli army officials talk about the threat that Hezbollah poses, they don't talk about tanks or other combat vehicles, or ATGMs. These are insignificant. So they got a couple more ATGMs. Big deal. They'll probably have to direct them at infantry anyway because most of the ground combat vehicles that participate in offensives are equipped with an APS. So it doesn't matter if they have Kornets, Toophans, and Milans, or older less capable Sagger missiles.

The tanks and AFVs will be easy prey for the air force and armored corps. As well as their cannon artillery.

 

Their ability, however, to launch thousands of long range rockets deep into Israel, and tens of thousands of short to medium ranged ones, reaching a total of 150,000 rockets of all sorts, thus being able to paralyze the entirety of Israel for a long time, and massively overwhelm the air defense systems, and cause billions of dollars in damage, if not more, is the real threat. And if they'll have chemical weapons, then that just adds a whole new layer of strategic capabilities for Hezbollah.

Tanks, AFVs, ATGMs, assault rifles, ammo etc etc are all low priority because of that. 

[Mighty_Zuk]

15 minutes ago, LoooSeR said:

Well, we will see

 

2-Most likely #Israel used the Dolphin Class submarine in this strike, to get safe/ensured results especially after the Syrian air defense managed to down an Israeli F-16 during it last engagement with #Syria.

3-the Dolphin class is capable of launching cruise missile form its torpedo tubes including the tomahawk missile and the Israeli made cruise missiles.
And judging by the numbers of missiles that Syria managed to shot down and the missile that hit its targets
They used 2 subs

4- #Israel used this tactic back in 2013, when they tried to hit a Syrian anti-ship missiles depot (Yakhont) somewhere near #Latakia
Back then Israel used the Dolphin subs to attack.

5- tonight the Syrian Air Defense Forces managed to down 8 missiles as the Syrian state TV stated.
The interception was done by the BUK-Pantsir system.
And I’m waiting for the wreckage images to identify what kind of missile #Israel used (most likely Popeye Turbo SLCM)

 

2)The number of sorties in Syria hasn't declined since the shooting down of that F-16. In fact, I live in the north (between Haifa and Acre) and I've heard quite a lot of aerial activity today. Unusual amount, that is. Note that at least most of the flights into Syria take off from southern air bases, especially Nevatim, and proceed into Lebanon which means they have to go above the city I live in.

 

3)8 missiles were said, by the Russian Federation (which is a far more reliable source than Syrian news agencies), to be fired at the T4 base. The Dolphin class submarine has a total capacity of 10 Popeye Turbo missiles - 6 in 533mm tubes, which is its original diameter, and an additional 4 can be stored inside 650mm tubes, and these are stretched and longer range, higher payload variants. Russia said 5 were intercepted, and Syria said 8 were intercepted. So if Syria is right, no missile has landed on the T4 base, which means no casualties and no damage. So no reason to say there was damage if they're right.

 

4)That is true, however Latakia is closer, and T4 is farther, so the Dolphins probably had to get closer than before to fire the 533mm variant Popeye. And Syria claims to have sunk a Dolphin class submarine in the 2013 incident, so why not now?

 

[LoooSeR]

5 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

 

Not the actual substance. That would be impossible unless you're talking about something really high profile like Sarin. 

I'm talking about this incident. The site was holding large quantities of long range rockets and it was about to be transferred to Hezbollah control. It was also widely believed to be an R&D facility for chemical weapons, and the existence of rockets in there suggests they were supposed to integrate these long range rockets with chemical warheads in a proper way. Not half assed like the example below.

Iranian personnel, at least, were reported to have been killed in the February strike on the T4 base as well, when the IAF targeted the drones that came from there, as well as the control room.

1) It was Syrian army storage and was not planned to be transfered to anybody 

2) Syria can't even fucking repair their AFVs without our help with restoration of service facility, so this crap about R&D facility is BS. Long range rockets with chemical weapons warheads are not even used for example by Houthis, who are getting their missiles directly from Iran, and they have much more reason to use them as their attacks with conventional warheads is not effective as weapon of terror or military weapon.

3) No casualites were reported from Iranian side, nor from Iranian part of internet.

 

10 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

It is possible to do, but these are mortars after all, and short range rockets. Integration with longer range rockets is the main concern here.

Al-Mukowama produce their own long range missiles, number of which were posted in this thread and they don't need any sort of outside help to make a warhead with CWs.

 

11 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

These are all very unimportant weapons. When Israeli army officials talk about the threat that Hezbollah poses, they don't talk about tanks or other combat vehicles, or ATGMs. These are insignificant.

2006 showed that they are important.

 

11 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

Their ability, however, to launch thousands of long range rockets deep into Israel, and tens of thousands of short to medium ranged ones, reaching a total of 150,000 rockets of all sorts, thus being able to paralyze the entirety of Israel for a long time, and massively overwhelm the air defense systems, and cause billions of dollars in damage, if not more, is the real threat. And if they'll have chemical weapons, then that just adds a whole new layer of strategic capabilities for Hezbollah.

Tanks, AFVs, ATGMs, assault rifles, ammo etc etc are all low priority because of that. 

   Yeah, Al-Mukowama doesn't have resources and manpower to get to that level of firepower in first place, as it is a pocket army on relatively low budget with very high number of forces being light infantry and minimal mechanisation. We also have concerns about Ukraine getting orbital lasers and giant mechs.

[LoooSeR]

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Russian FM Lavrov: Turkey should return Afrin to the Syrian Government.

 

I would like to see photos

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Looks like Jaysh al-Islam has allowed Russian inspectors to enter the attack site, all materials there were also taken by the Russians

 

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Three years too long, but they are free now. 

Heart heartbreaking pictures!

 

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Russia MoD: On April 9,between 03.25-03.53 (MSK),Two Israeli AF F-15 jets fired 8 guided missiles at the T-4 airfield.Syrian AD have shot down 5 missiles,3 reached the western part of airfield. The Israeli aircraft didn't enter Syrian airspace.

 

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Missiles, fired against T4, flyed over Lebanon

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Unidentified missiles flying over Lebanon heading to Syria.

 

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Hundreds of #SAA & #NDF reinforcements from all over Syria arrived today to participate in the upcoming battle to liberate Yarmouk Camp & Al-Hajar al-Aswad & Qadam from #ISIS

 

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Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian and Russian generals at the joint intelligence-sharing ops room in Baghdad's Green Zone

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Information on casualties is jumping from 1-2 SAA personal dead and 5-7 injured to

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14 dead (at least) and dozens injured by the Israeli bombing of the Syrian T4 airbase. Iranians reportedly among the casualties.

 

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East Qalamoun rebels say they've signed a sort of technical deal with Russia over how to work out the situation for rebel-held towns there. The area has factional and other links to Ghouta & fighting has been limited by semi-stable truces for a long time.

 

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Israel finally hit Iranians this time after all previous claims. Yuri Lyamin on Otvaga forum:

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The Iranians report that as a result of the T4 strike a number of servicemen of the resistance axis died, including the actual Iranian military and Fatimiyun fighters. The exact number has not yet been announced, but they write that in the next few hours they will begin to report the names of the martyrs.

 

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At the moment, officially reported about the three dead Iranians on T4, but this is not the final data.

Mehdi Lotfi Niyasar
Akbar Zavar Jannati
Seyed Amar Mousavi

 

 

 

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The fourth Iranian military man who died on T4 as a result of the aggression of the Zionist regime
Colonel KSIR Mehdi Dehgan Yazdali

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MOSCOW, April 9 (Itar-Tass) - RIA Novosti. Russia in recent years has supplied Syria with 40 anti-aircraft missile and gun systems "Pantsir-S1" to protect against air attacks, a source in the Defense Ministry told RIA Novosti.

 

 

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Claimed to be Buk that shot down 2 missiles

 

Another participant of yesterday events

 

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It seems that the S-200 missiles are also involved in the response yesterday, but often ineffectively ... the difficulty of dealing with small targets like missiles which Israel used frequently in its raids.

Photo of the remains of a Syrian S-200 missile ..

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SyAAF

 

 

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Video of the Russian Military Police with the Russian inspectors inside Duma today, in the site of the attack

 

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New batch of civilians, that were kidnapped by Jaish Al Islam, released

 

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The Iranian media outlets named two more servicemen of the IRGC that died as a result of the Israeli raid on the Syrian airbase T4. Thus, the total number of Iranians killed there reached six.
Morteza Baziripur of Birjenda
Hamid Rezai from Tehran

 

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Jaish Al-Islam burning their stuff in Douma

[Xoon]

It is actually stupendously easy to buy a ABC-like suit:

https://hansenprotection.no/landbruk-industri/beskyttelsesdrakter/index.html

 

Costs 2300NOK, roughly 300 USD.

 

These types of suits give full protection against chemicals. Considering all the drones they can afford, they defiantly could afford these suits.