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T-80 Megathread: Astronomical speed and price!


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10 hours ago, Collimatrix said:

Bro... that's a T-72.

i think so too ( maybe T-72 m1) ! but who put this picture said it's T-80 ! 

8 hours ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

No that's clearly a BMP-2.

yes in the right of picture

6 hours ago, AMX-56 Leclerc said:

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wtf?

keep sleeping .... that's all is dream

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On 05.05.2016 at 10:59 PM, Militarysta said:

Propably the most interesting was T-80B armour in turret (hull -the same as T-72A)

 

T-80B (1978-1984)

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Psyhical thickness in the thickest place before crew comparment: 715mm

psyhical thickenss at 30. degree from turret centre - 530mm

psyhical thicnes in thinest place whit kvarc "sepcial armour": 520mm

 

Wery simple armour, heavy weight, but...cheap and effective! Material thickens effectivens is well known (vs. APFSDS and HEAT)

 

cast steel circa 270-330HB - 0,85 vs APFSDS and HEAT

kvarc "snadbars"  - 1.22 vs HEAT and 0.77 vs APFSDS

Whole turret protection looks good, very good:

 for LOS thicknes equal 715mm:
vs APFSDS: ~590mm (sic!)
vs HEAT: ~670mm


for LOS thicknes equal  530mm
vs APFSDS: ~440mm
vs HEAT:  500mm

for LOS thicknes equal 520mm
vs APFSDS: ~430mm
vs HEAT: ~490mm


And for compare older NATO 120mm rifted and 105mm APFSDS munition:

(2km, plate slopped at 60 degree (angle)  so the most comfortable conditions for penetrator, for 0. angle penetration must be mucht worse)

 

105mm rifted:

M111 (???) - 340mm RHA
M774 (1979) - 360mm RHA
M833 (1983) - 500mm RHA

 

120mm L-44 Leo-2:

DM13 (1979) - 440mm RHA
DM23 (1985) - 480mm RHA

 

In Soviets protection estimates only 30 degree was taken into account, so it has modest 420 mm vs APFSDS.

 

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7 hours ago, Andrei_bt said:

 

In Soviets protection estimates only 30 degree was taken into account, so it has modest 420 mm vs APFSDS.

 

440mm circa vs APFSDS. 

BTW - I have fun couse it seems that erly M1 was less protected (in term KE) then T-80B, T-72A, ect :) Of course CE (HEAT) protection was better but sitill - 90% of estimatous where so overboosted (to big) :)

 

BTW  - this only 30 degree taking acount are qutire misteken. For example - Your favorite T-64B - values given for 450-470mm LOS (psyhical thickenss) can be biger in 115 and 130% for 0.degree...

 

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13 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

From Andrey's site, one of proposed modernisation of T-80BV and T-64s: http://btvt.info/5library/t80moderniz.htm

 

It is basically a Kornet launcher, mounted behind turret.

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In 90-s Kobra GL ATGM became quite obsolete, so this was a good idea withou limitation of gun calibre and missile size.

 Some sort of flashback to 60-s era Malutka equiped tanks.

 

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T-80Us too receive new thermal imager.

http://mil.today/2017/Weapons52/

 

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In 2016, the Krasnogorsk plant finished tests of the heat-vision sighting system Irbis for modernized tanks T-80U and T-90. The sights will be supplied to the army after 2017 under the already concluded contract, says the manufacturer’s annual reporting. According to the experts of Mil.Today, commissioning of the new sight will for the first time give Russian tankers a homemade thermal vision device based on the mercury-cadmium-telluride (MCT) matrix, which will bridge a gap between the leading NATO countries in this area.

 

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Irbis sight.

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