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Thanks. 

Italy now part of the Leo 2 Gang

https://twitter.com/NichoConcu/status/1679152652503097345?t=LaVyPbVt5mG5DO59HpuCUQ&s=19

10 hours ago, SH_MM said:

It never was a kit. It was a concept, they made a single - and extremely simple - model to showcase the concept, then Armored Warfare decided to invent a tank based on it.

Thanks mate. I guessed that it never went anywere but i found it interreting from the design. I have seen armored warfares take on it but do you have a picture from the concept shown? Also what was the deal with it? I mean how did they want to achieve better protection as i can't find anything about it anymore really. 

Does somebody here knows what happend with IBD's MBT ESPACE KIT (Enhanced Survivability Package for Advanced Combat Environment) ?

1 hour ago, Laser Shark said:

Leo 2A8 for Norway too  it seems. Main difference will be integration of Kongsberg ICS/CORTEX, and probably few other changes, earning the tank the designation Leo 2A8 NOR, but it's essentially the same tank as the one that will be delivered to the BW (with more countries likely to follow).

 

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/configuration-is-finalised-for-norways-leopard-2a8-tank-order/

Wasn't all of that planed before like trophy and co. and only i think the roof armor would be new ? I mean the diffrence of A7NO and A8NO

On 8/11/2022 at 8:18 AM, Serge said:

Interesting article about Nexter ERa developments. 
https://www.forcesoperations.com/de-nouveaux-blindages-reactifs-en-developpement-chez-nexter-arrowtech/

No accurate details, of course, but :
- New ERA available in 2025

- CERA available in 2026 ;

- EPRA available by 2030.

EPRA will be able to react differently according to the attack. 

Got anymore news on that one?

On 5/17/2023 at 7:58 PM, alanch90 said:

There are many factors working against MGCS right now and that stem from the slow pace of development, estimating an IOC by 2040. 2040 is a very long time, not only France and Germany might not want to wait that much (and hence suffer a capability gap) but the world weapons market (more urgently, the European) might not want to wait either. If any other "next generation" tank becomes available during that time gap, then it will swallow up a potentially huge share of the market that MGCS was projecting to get. This is why the South Koreans and Rheinmetall are moving faster with things such as KF-51 (it is marketed as a "next generation tank") or the "K3", they are smelling blood on the water.

So, what options does France have? After all, Leclerc got a few customers. I think the best option (for KNDS interests) is to further develop the EMBT, incorporating as many MGCS technologies and requirements as possible while avoiding the "blanck sheet design curse", and offer it as an upgrade kit for existing Leopard 2 and Leclerc hulls. That way they can engage the existing market and offer something faster than the competition. This is also the same strategy that Rheinmetall is using with the Panther, but they are in a more vulnerable position because at present they lack the manufacturing facilities to work on Panther orders (they want to set up a factory in Ukraine but that will depend on what will happen with that country in the near future). 

I also thought one could scrap MGCS in the sense of a new  new plattform new hull and instead use E-MBT right now. It has many benefits and as long they make it modular enough for ease of future upgrades with enough space and weight too it could be a mutch faster alternativ. Also one doesnt have to use E-MBT turret but could instead chose if diffrent if the customer wants that like rct 120 just with an L/55A1

Tought the new Leopard 2a7 to 2a8 have new and better armor then older mbts. They should be got enough armored

On 4/4/2023 at 5:12 AM, alanch90 said:

This was bound to happen. French politicians started talking about replacing the Leclerc not with the MGCS but by something developed on the basis of EMBT. And yes, it makes a lot of sense.

https://www.opex360.com/2023/04/02/un-depute-suggere-de-remplacer-le-char-leclerc-par-lebmt-de-nexter-et-de-krauss-maffei-wegmann/

This could allow them to get something mutch faster and could make use of Leopard 2A7+, 2S8 and AX production because if i remember it right all have the same hull

Well it gets new roof armor, better optic some half NGVA , sensor fusion and better all-round situational awareness system. Or you say its an leo 2A7HU with trophy and no RCWS