Meant to post this last night, but the HWNDU stream was moved again, this time to some flagpole in the middle of nowhere, with only the sky and flag in frame. /pol/ still captured the flag in roughly 24 hours, using plane traffic, stars, ambient sounds, and playing marco polo with car horns to find it. This is weaponized autism. It was on some private property near Greeneville, TN.
Was replaced with a MAGA hat and a "Alt-right is alright" shirt, though shia's crew took it down within about 20 minutes.
Vox, I know, but the numbers are the important bit. Yet more confirmation of how utterly incompetent Hillary's campaign was. If the Democratic Party wants to win, they need to purge the party of everybody involved. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/8/14848636/hillary-clinton-tv-ads
Since this is our random politics dump thread, I figured I'd throw this in here.
I've been very interested in what Dilbertman has to say lately, but I think he's off the mark here. In fact, he's so off the mark that he makes me voice my latent concern that he's deliberately trying to convince people to be climate skeptics. (Which, I should note, is not something I'm against, but which runs counter to what he claims to be trying to do. More on that in a bit.)
Tucker Carlson's game looks like this: Attack in whatever way he can, no matter how nonsensical, with the deliberate and calculated aim of getting his guest to flip out or otherwise discredit themselves. And if they don't, just say you've run out of time. That's his game, and as someone who argues like an intermediate level competitive chess player moves Queen to Bishop 6, I respect it for what it is.
So I don't think Tucker induced cognitive dissonance in Bill Nye. I think Bill Nye got MAD. I would, too, in that situation. Carlson specializes in the kind of insane word games that make people like me go completely apeshit and want to start throwing things. Bill seemed to have reasonably simple answers to a simple question. Here's it boiled down to the essentials, without Tucker's asinine interruption tactic:
Question: What would the climate be like if humans hadn't made it artificially warmer?
Answer: It would be like 1750. You wouldn't be able to grow grapes in Britain, you'd still be able to open ski resorts in certain parts of Europe, and *some specific factoid about agricultural pests that I didn't quite get*.
Sounds pretty straightforward to me! You can argue that it's right or wrong, but it is AN answer.
The thing is, I am on pretty much the opposite side of the fence from Bill. I think he and his ilk are doing a disservice in the conversation about this subject, because he's contributing to an oppressive atmosphere that stops people from even asking questions. I don't know what the truth of climate science is, but I can see with my own eyes that the political situation in climate science is a fertile bed for exactly the sort of Inquisition-style witch-hunts and dissent suppression that you don't want in a scientific field.
But I disagree with Dilbertman. Nye isn't experiencing cognitive dissonance - well, he is as part of the human condition, but not because he didn't have an answer to the question.
Now, Scott Adams I think plays a deep game with his blogging. He's not always being truthful to you, and that's on purpose. I feel like his blogging is interactive, which is one reason I keep reading him. He's not just telling you about his theories of persuasion, he is actively using them on you. And regarding climate change, I think he's doing what he'd call "pacing and leading". He's pacing climate change believers by saying that he believes the scientific consensus, to try to build credibility. Then, he tries to lead them by expressing doubts about small areas in climate science. In a few months, I expect him to be an outright skeptic.
That's what's so neat about his blog, you can actually test his persuasion theory as you read, because he is actively doing it to you.
They're desperate because they are dying. Television is dying and they are losing their stranglehold. When a humble water filter merchant in an armed compound in Texas can rival your Multi-Billion dollar advertisement platform's media reach you're done. Finished. Dead. Their nightmare has come true.