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delete013

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  1. Not exactly. 18.-20. April Soviets gradually push Germans over Strausberg, which is where the last natural obstacle before Berlin is. In the process they suffer the biggest losses in the battle for Berlin but don't know what exactly is causing this (AT guns and Panzerfausts are mentioned and the inspection of wrecks shows mostly kinetic projectiles. Soviets claim one Tiger B). Notice this is an indirect proof. As is with most historical records is none of this 100% facts. It is impossible to pin each loss to its source, but the reduction of causes based on unit location and equipment, the most probable explanation is provided. 503 wasn't overrun, it retreated into Berlin. This isn't my thesis, it is all the work of critical mass. He is the real deal, not some amateur like me.
  2. Don't judge facts with political orientation. Sigh, one more time. Körner claimed less than what was attributed to him later. But his claim is still big and fits in the Soviet loss numbers. Read the comments again, all bits are there. Crew and vehicle performance.
  3. Why not? All those areas are a few km apart. This is explicitly refuted in the comments.
  4. Oh sorry, I was all wrong. Merely ~50 ko-ed IS-2 in the area where those 9 tigers and 5 stugs operated + unknown t-34s. But since nobody can attribute exact shell to each wreck, it is all fiction..
  5. My primary goal in such historical analysis is the truth. This case is especially interesting because a proper analysis is new to me and because it appears to be one of those beleaguered "myths". It is exciting to know that certain people of the past were capable of such performance against impossible odds, in times, where individuals became but insignificant gears in the machinery of industrial warfare. It is very unfortunate that they gave their best for a perfide regime, but those are some of the finest feats in the recorded military history.
  6. The man went so far to check the composition and equipment of the units involved: Brilliant work.
  7. What is fiction is Körner alone and 100 kills. That is also what I deemed unbelievable, if you recall. German army never claimed that and the point of that article and Beer's post was to prove that it did, is therefore untrustworthy. I don't care what propaganda or post-war writers said. You can call them biased, but not the German army. Facts were wrongly interpreted but the core of the story is real = extraordinary damage dealt by a few tigers and that the actual claims are credible.
  8. The point of that classification is to exclude Panzerfausts. Sure, there were other cannons too. Let's ask here, what are the best AT tools at hand? I believe they are Tiger Bs. This on its own wouldn't be enough, but critical mass matched their location with those of the affected Soviet units and that is a credible motive.
  9. No, critical mass specifically states that Körner hadn'tdestroyed all 100 T-34s, nor did he claim them. Claims and losses are for the entire Heeresgruppe Weichsel and mostly 1st Belorussian front of which most (not all) can be attiributed to Panzerabteilung 503, considering the location of units. Critical mass also mentions that Soviet reports indicate mostly "projectile hits", hence the long 8,8 the most probable candidate. Unless he messed up primary sources is this a very solid explanation of the situation.
  10. And apparently, it is all true! Ahaha, this backfired spectacularly.
  11. Full capacity of the production model was 84. Without rear turret stock, 68. Plus what they can store elsewhere. Plus what others can give him. Better go back to sleep. Considering the treat, they likely put more AP shells that HE. But unless we have some testimony, I can't say for sure. The report doesn't say that there were no other causes. But enough to get mentioned. Smth which very likely happened considering the availability and reliance of WAllies on artillery. This artillery was mostly indirect l that rarely hit the vehicle directly. Hence, k.o. is a matter of interpretation. Mobility kill, I guess. Almost all failed German armoured attacks that Americans casually attribute to their skill and tanks were stopped this way. With many many many artillery shells (or by CAS). This usually had two important effects, destruction or retreat of German infantry and damaging of tanks. After the artillery finished, US tanks and infantry shot up what was left on the field. This includes a lot of immobilised and abandoned vehicles then appearing as kill claims, which is understandable. The only direct fire unit that likely did destroy many manned German tanks were TDs, because they were a dedicated defensive weapon with a single task of waiting in the back for panzer breakthroughs and placed on potential venues of attacks.
  12. I'm not sure you know what you posted. This is one of those articles, where in comments, critical mass dismantles tankarchives. He provides a good answer to Körner's mistery. The latter only claimed 11 tanks and 39 possible. Secondary sources then misinterpreted it. But in the words of critical mass: "The bottomline is that the credited claims do indeed match soviet losses on this day in general and 5th SA and 2nd GTA losses in particular." @Beer You might want to read it too. It is basically how most panzer ace myths came about. Wrongly attributed kill claims and missing reports on Allied losses. The improbable story is blamed on the soldier, instead of on book writers. The same goes to Wittmann, perhaps the most slandered soldier of ww2.
  13. The key to that report is that artillery can damage drive train and that recovery was usually impossible. Allied tanks featured similar problems if hit by artilley, only that German artillery wasn't much present in the west. Or is it because Körner was in a tiger B?
  14. I know. Why don't you make a comprehensive review? I am interested in what others think.
  15. You want to squeeze that with the Jews, eh? ccc "Battle of Arracourt" is, afaik, a recent invention of certain US authors in desperate attempt to portray US tank units in a positive light. Likely part of a plan to sell books. Nobody, US army nor Wehrmacht called it so and the events are part of what is called "Lorraine campaign" in US historical literature.
  16. Is that a tricky question that will define my entire Gestalt? If it makes your day.. Apparently between 4 and 6 mio.
  17. I genuinely hope that you root the neo-Nazis out and we can have a rational discussion about German engineering. I also hope for @Lord_James to come visit Germany again and see how it has changed in regard to discrimination.
  18. No no, on this day you have no powers! I'm surprised nobody mentioned until now..
  19. You may ask nicely for me to stay away from ww2 topics and let you and your minions use them for entertainment. That was partially their intent, was it?
  20. Wait, where are accusations of horrible reliability? Weren't half blown up by their crews or captured in workshops? Allied tactics tell me that what they destroyed was mostly artillery, air support or tank destroyers...
  21. ..and those Nazis suddenly changed profile with the new state? This breaks some established sociological theories.
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