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9 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

Type 99s in desert

 

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Those are 96's

T-90M's reversing somewhere
 

11 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

nope

I'm not sure but could these documents be related with ZTZ98 armor packages?

https://www.doc88.com/p-9793516939542.html

https://www.doc88.com/p-7374950723088.html

That may be posted before, but the video was deleted and now it's finally here:

11:55 we can see VT4's reversing

It's about 20-25 kph, but I'm not sure whether he continued to accelerate when the border of the frame

2 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

Nope, it is from the memory of some former tankers, so take it with a grain of salt I guess? Object 477 is on SH, you can contact him directly.

9 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

Sorry I don't know much about transmission. The comparison graph you posted is from Object 477, I can upload the full graph if you want.

It seems that I will need to try to contact the object-477. Is it possible to contact him? Perhaps he has documentary evidence? I have a full version, just cut out this paragraph to do more clearly.

 

9 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

So from what I know, CH1000 and CH1000B all have the same number of reverse gears, the difference is that CH1000 requires manual gear shifting while CH1000B has an more advanced automatic gear shifting. 

Are there any documentary confirmation? Just in all sources that I found about CH1000 (99A) it was argued that the gear of the reverse - 3, but for some serious documentary evidence, I did not find it (and I'm not sure if they were in public domain)






P.S. Sorry, I forgot to place link to the video

From 12:20

13 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

All variant of 96 and 99 still retains that old autoloader, DTC-10-125 is the best thing they can get with the projectile length limitation.

Are there any perspective APFSDS development processes?

Also found video from VT, but  on the moment when the car begins to take back, the frame shifts on the military

I found some comparison for BM Oplot and VT-4.
It says about CH1000B transmisson.

Previosly, I saw some photos

 

So, it says about CH1000B too.

Is it possible that the difference between the CH1000 (99a) from the CH1000B (vT4) is that on 99A (presumably, since I still did not find documentary evidence or video with a demonstration) - three reverse speeds transmission, unlike two at VT?


And I'd like to clarify if theres full video of this screenshot?

P.S. And I found original, 12:20, It's clearly seen

 

6 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

The article in this photo is a total bullshit written by some high school kiddo, Object 477 himself criticized it HARD. Ask him for detail of the whole thing.

6 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

In the bullshitery article, the description below reads "This is the UFP of VT4". Howecer, it is in fact VT-4's turret armour module.

4 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

The article in the picture is a perfect example on why most of the contents on various Chinese defence related magazines are pure garbage.

Thanks for clarifying the situation

I'll try to find out more details and information
 

6 minutes ago, Wiedzmin said:

in what universe you live ? 634mm core in 654mm round where Svinets is 735mm overall round...

 

 

it's even shorter that Mango-M

Yes, the length confuses me. Nevertheless, I did not find detailed measurements, so I use those data that is. There is also a measure of the APFSDS Phase 2. Looks more real, in my opinion, taking into account photo with both rounds

 

And I would like to clarify whether there is more than one photo?
 

11 minutes ago, TINDALOS said:

PS: Which means that DTC-10-125 is probably a little bit inferior when comparing its performance with DM53 and 3BM59, while fanboys on weibo, tieba, and other Chinese social medias and forums just brainlessly repeat: "it can penetrate 1000mm of RHA" again and again....

I saw photos, and even video with DTC10-125.

In my opinion, the projectile is very powerful. If these "measurements" are correct, then, at the initial speed of 1780-1800 meters per second, this shell can already exceed 3BM60 (with its initial flight speed of 1660 meters). So we may expect at least 300mm+/60


 

5 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

In general, some Chinese weibo blogger such as Monochromelody (he is on SH), object 477 (he is also on SH), and 风味磁能原理样机 are well informed and have some quality information regarding Chinese and Russian AFVs. The rest of Chinese internet is just a huge garbage landfill filled with Chinese nationalists fanboy who tirelessly boasting about their "invincible wunderwaffe" and can't take any critics. They are... furious and ignorant for most of the time. Why did I know? Because I am a Chinese myself.

I try to "filter" the information as much as my current awareness level allows.

I will give an example with a transmission: Yes, I found mention that 99a - three reversing transmission (what I wrote earlier), however, I did not find full-fledged documentary evidence (or I simply did not find the place where This could be done, due to the fact that I still can not fully read in Chinese). Therefore, you have to collect the information "on the grains".

P. S. wanted to ask what is the real limit on the length of the UPFSD used for autoloaders 99 and 99a? 740mm from after refinement, as on Soviet and Russian tanks, or will it be the opportunity to use the APFSDS even greater elongation? Also, I would like to ask if there are information about future projectiles that should replace the APFSDS Phase 3 (DTC10-125)?

5 hours ago, TINDALOS said:

That was from HJ10 NLOS-ATGM

Oh, thank you, now I see

On 6/16/2021 at 8:57 PM, TINDALOS said:

yes the Chinese do looked at the German MTU. At first (in the 80s) when ZTZ-99 was still under intense development they even considered AGT-1500, but for the reason we all knew AGT-1500 didn't become the egine of this chinese tank.

Thank you.

In general, I wanted to know if there are any details on this photo? Seemingly testing 125mm APFSDS. It's about 854mm LOS, which means 427mm/60, so it's getting closer to 829A3/A4 level,  but I don't have more detailed information (and I'm not even sure if it was about 125mm)
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14 hours ago, alanch90 said:

Where did you get that second image from? 

Found it on one of the links in Baidu. The author of the message provided this clipping, may be from here:
 

However, I'm not sure I haven't seen this same clipping in other sources.

Hello,

for some time I have been looking for information about the protection, transmission and the ZTZ99A engine, but, unfortunately, I have just started learning Chinese, so it is rather difficult for me to search for information in Chinese sources.

As far as I could understand, the engine-transmission part of the ZTZ99A consists, in fact, of two components: the 150HB-2 engine and the CH-1000 transmission unit?

For example, the question of the number of forward and reverse gears, as well as the maximum reverse speed, is still not clear? In particular, I found references to the presence of 3 (?) Reverse gears?

I have also come across some statements that the maximum speed when reversing can be in the range of 20-40 + km / h (40+ looks somewhat doubtful, but at 30 on R2 I am ready to believe)

Also, the operating modes remain unclear, at the moment, I assume that R provides a "safe" reverse gear for transportation (about 5-7 km / h, while R2 connection gives a "full" speed)

Or about a scheme similar to the Leopard, since, as far as I understand, when developing ZTZ99A, Chinese engineers looked at German MTU engines?