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    1- Do you have any additional documents about BROACH warhead? 2- But how can it form blast wave in one direction only?
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    3- How about LAHAT? 4-I think a frontal hit by a full size ATGM such as AGM-65 likely wreak the tank as well
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    1- I saw it here: https://defensepoliticsasia.com/nera-understanding-non-explosive-reactive-armour/ NERA seem to operate in the same manner as common ERA: 2- As far as i know Oplot tank has Zaslon hard kill protection T-55 was equipped with Drozd T-72 and T-80 are equipped with Arena T-90 seem to have nothing? T-14 will get Afghanit 3- How about T-80, T-84 Oplot, T-90, T-99, Type 96 and even future T-14 ? beside as i understand it APDS round lose significant penetrating power at long range, at range greater than 3 km, it is very hard to penetrate frontal armor of MBT, whereas the penetrating capability of ATGM is range independence. 4- If the round hit the turret front, wouldn't the explosion fragments always damage or penetrate the frontal upper hull, which is extremely thin? i heard the upper glacis of M1 is only 30-40 mm thick 5- It seem pretty capable, able to cut APDS round into dozens smaller pieces and what not
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    How about the chains armor?
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    1- if i understand correctly, NERA and ERA operate very similar when they are struck, for NERA the material in the middle of 2 plates also expand when reduce the penetrating performer of HEAT warhead. So how come NERA has multi hit capability? ,Beside, the chance that 2 APDS or HEAT round hitting exactly the same place seem pretty slim, is it really worth it to have inferior protection and higher weight? 2- I don't think APS is easy but it just seem quite weird that Russian, Ukraine, Israel have them for quite a while yet most Western tank still don't have them. 3- I agree that ATGM are probably more expensive, but i don't get why they would be ineffective, especially consider that not only ATGM fly further, they can also be guided to hit more vulnerable area. Isn't most tanks in battlefield are destroyed by ATGM such as AGM-114, AGM-65, BRIMSTONE, TOW, JAVELIN and KORNETs ..etc rather than tank Sabot round? 4- I remember seeing a study where they tested Tank against 152 mm artillery , and all tanks get wreaked pretty bad even with a near miss, so do you have any history case or any study about survival rate of tank when they are hit with 152 mm HE? 5- What are the possible counter against Duplet?
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    No kidding? the skirt on Nazi tank is so so so thin?? also this is the first time i heard the shape on Leo is to break LRP. Do you have have some source? Not that i don't trust your expertise , i just need something so that when i people don't doubt my words when i repeat that
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    Wait a second, if space armor is not very effective against HEAT, then what is the point of space armor on PzKpfw IV and Leopard 2A5 onward ?
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    I hope my question is not very stupid, anyway, i have always curios about the design philosophy of Western tanks such as Leopard, M1, Challenger versus Russian tank such as T80, T-90. Vs 1- Why do Western tank mostly use NERA instead of ERA? Isn't ERA more effective than NERA, especially against KE and they are also much lighter and replaceable ? 2- Why don't Western tank mostly have active hard kill protection? I know there are some recent plans to integrate Trophy on M1A3 but why is it so late? On one hand, even ancient Russian tank have active hard kill countermeasure. On the other hand, very new Leopard 2A7V still doesn't have active hard kill countermeasures 3- Why don't Western tank use ATGM like Russian? they can reach much further than Sabot round and there are also top attack option that allow them to penetrate the tank roof, where there are almost no armor? I understand that APDS round fly much faster and more resilient against countermeasure so they are probably better option at short range, but i think ATGM is better at long range. 4- Is there any modern MBT that can survive a hit from 152 mm HE round? such as one fired by KV-2? 5- For tank on tank combat, which one is better between Leopard 2A7 and Oplot-M equipped with Duplet? Is there any known counter for HEAT warhead and APDS round against Duplet?
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    Wait a second, I thought the purpose of the cage and chain armor is to detonate HEAT warhead early so they can't form a proper shaped jet and thus reduce their penetration? how can the chain catch RPG round?
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    I see many knowledgeable members here so i decided to make an account to ask some question According to many historical accounts, the armor of WW II battleship is very thick: can be between 410-650 mm of steel Thick enough that they can even resist penetration from 12-16 inch canon Compared to these massive round, it is probably obvious that missiles such as Harpoon, Exocet will do little or nothing against the armor belt: No penetration and probably nothing more than a small dent. Anti tank missiles such as AGM-65, AGM-114 or Brimstone can penetrate the armor but all their warhead will do is penetrating a tiny hole into the massive battleship, it likely will hit nothing significant given that a battleship have massive volume of space). Furthermore, i heard space armor is extremely effective against HEAT warhead as well). But what if the two are combined? HEAT + explosive warhead: aka BROACH. With a frontal shape charged and secondary follow through bomb This is the working principles of the system: BROACH was designed to help small cruise missile penetrate bunkers. So i have some question: 1- Because concrete and soil are very brittle, unlike steel, I think the precursor charge likely much drill bigger hole in them than it can drill on steel armor belt of a battleship, so even if we use missile with BROACH warhead to hit a battleship, it won't drill a hole big enough to allow the secondary warhead to pass through. Is that a correct assessment? 2- Looking at the cutaway of the missiles. How come the detonation of the frontal shaped charge doesn't damage/destroy the secondary warhead or at very least propel it to the opposite direction? 3- Can supersonic missiles such as Agm-88 (Mach2) , Asmp-A (Mach3) , Rampage , Asm-3 (Mach 3) , Hawc (Mach 5) penetrate the armor belt of a battleship? or they simply don't have enough velocity and density?
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    I hope this is the right thread. So to counter ERA, then HEAT warhead often have an additional tandem charge so either penetrate the ERA or detonate ERA tiles. But what is there any way for HEAT warhead to counter chain and cage armor? For example: what happened if This hit something like this? For the sake of discussion, let assume the missile hit the tank where there is a cage or chain cover it
  12. Ronny
    Guys, which one have better protection The Leopard 2A7 or Leopard 2A4 revolution? why don't Leopard 2A7+ have active hard kill protection option? Vs
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    F-35 at VHF frequency: Hypersonic for future F-35
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