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    cm_kruger reacted to Zinegata in Corvettes and Cruisers - Surface Combatants in 2015 and Beyond   
    So this is a bit of an outgrowth of my comments on the LCS...
     
    Corvettes and Cruisers - Surface Combatants in 2015 and Beyond
     
    The year 2015 is an interesting time for the oft-forgotten surface combatants - corvettes, frigates, destroyers, and cruisers - which are used to operating under the shadow of aircraft carriers that have dominated naval combat. On the Western side, you have numerous sources in the Internet reporting doom and gloom for the American Navy, citing warship shortages compared to a growing Chinese Navy. Even the Russian Navy, which mostly remains underfunded, is featured in sensationalist articles like this one:
     
    http://theweek.com/articles/583294/tiny-russian-warship-just-shocked-world
     
    Which question how small Russian warships are able to carry many more missiles than much larger American warships.
     
    The problem, unfortunately, lies with the lack of naval knowledge among the general news media and the public. Sensationalism and trivia tend to override context and timelines in the search for more viewers and clicks.
     
    Fortunately, that's why this article exists to set things straight.
     
    The Myth of the Declining American Surface Fleet
     
    One of the most enduring and popular misconceptions on the Internet is the idea that the American surface fleet is declining. Too much focus is placed on the problems of the navy's two latest ship designs - the Zumwalt and the Littoral Combat Ship - while commentators whose naval knowledge is limited to playing Harpoon wax nostalgic about the days of a massive US Navy that had dozens of cruisers and frigates.
     
    All of this tends to disguise a startling revelation: The US surface fleet is in fact incredibly strong now; and is more powerful than it was in the 90s.
     
    The key really, which everyone doesn't seem to notice, is the US Navy's concentration on a single, proven warship type: The Arleigh Burke class. There are now 62 of these powerful warships serving in the US Navy, half of which only joined the fleet after the year 2000. This production run in fact exceeds the production run of any US warship for the past 30 years - the Knox class frigate for instance had only 36 units, while only 51 of the "cheap" OH Perry class were built for the USN,
     
    And that's not even the end of the run yet. An additional 14 units had already been authorized - to make up for the cancellation of most of the Zumwalts - with potentially thirty more to be ordered. It may in fact come to pass that the Arleigh Burke's production run would exceed a hundred; which is quite an investment given that these are 10,000 ton warships that are more equivalent to World War 2 cruisers than the 2,000 ton destroyers from the same era.
     
    Yet even with the existing run of 62 ships the production of Arleigh Burkes had in fact already outweighed the production total of the OH Perry class (which was half the weight of a Burke) and the Spruance class - the two ship classes they were really meant to replace. So while the total number of ships may have decreased, in terms of tonnage the fleet's overall weight in fact increased - while lowering manpower cost.
     
    The Burkes are also simply much better ships than the old frigates and destroyers because of the improved AEGIS sensors and the versatility of its VLS system; which can load many different types of missile depending on its mission. A single Burke for instance could theoretically carry 96 SAMs for air defense or 96 Tomahawk missiles instead - the latter loadout being four times more cruise missiles that the Russians fired on Syria using their four small ships. An old OH Perry by contrast could only carry 40 short-ranged SAMs and a handful of anti-ship missiles in its main missile magazine.
     
    Moreover, the numbers of Arleigh Burkes available - alongside the twenty-two original AEGIS cruisers, give the US a grand total of eighty-four top-of the-line escorts. Compared to the nineteen US Navy Supercarriers and Marine carriers, the USN in fact has enough to provide four of AEGIS escorts per carrier. China by contrast has a mere dozen Type 51 and 52 destroyers that come close in weight class - but not in capability - as the Burkes. Indeed, their only match unit per unit are the six Kongo and Atago class ships of the Japanese SDF - who are of course American allies!
     
    In this context, it also becomes easier to see why much of the "controversy" around the Littoral Combat Ship is misplaced. Many of its critics want it to be as capable as the outgoing OH Perry class frigates. What these critics don't realize is that the replacement for these ships were in fact the dozens of new Arleigh Burkes. The LCS was instead meant to fill the roles that the Burkes could't perform - and in doing so they spelled the doom of the 4,000 ton frigates.
     
     
    The Death of the 4,000 ton Frigate
     
    A perennial problem in amateur warship discussion is the insistence of many commentators on the need for particular ship types. "We need cruisers/destroyers/frigates", often uttered without realizing what the particular ships were actually meant to do. This applies to the 4,000 ton "multirole" frigate - which is an enormously popular type of warship worldwide and the OH Perry is an exemplar of this type. In essence, the multirole frigate promises decent all-around capability at an affordable cost.
     
    However, for the present-day US Navy, there is no place for the multi-role frigate. The Burkes served as carrier escorts and independent cruisers for showing the flag in dangerous hotspots. The LCS meanwhile was a utility ship in a carrier battle group, or a low-intensity combat ship for showing the flag in safer waters. There was no space in between for a multirole frigate.
     
    And that's because the well-loved frigate was in fact always riddled by compromise. It simply could not be good at anti-air combat, anti-submarine combat, and surface combat with only 4,000 tons displacement. Specialist ships meanwhile - such as the Knox - could not operate independently because they could not deal with all possible threats they encountered.
     
    Even the idea that they could serve as "backup" for the primary carrier escorts proved problematic, particularly in anti-air combat. Experience in the Falklands showed that having multiple average SAM systems operating independently was problematic - you had mere minutes or even seconds to coordinate your defense volleys which proved impossible with multiple ships; leading to the possibility that some of the enemy aircraft/missiles were left un-engaged. Long-ranged SAM systems also tended to be radar-guided leading to the possibility of the escorts interfering with each other's radar.
     
    The solution was a centralized and computerized SAM system on a single ship with a powerful radar - the AEGIS system on the US cruisers and the Burkes. Indeed, so powerful was this system that the Americans quickly scrapped their remaining non-AEGIS air defense cruisers while the OH Perry class was allowed to lose their SAM systems - it was better to have a handful of AEGIS ships doing air defense than a lot of lesser ships.
     
    Interestingly, the only type of SAM system that would complement AEGIS was the short-ranged RIM; which was an IR-guided weapon that did not interfere with other ship's radar while providing last-ditch defense against an enemy missile that got through the long-ranged SAM volleys of AEGIS. It was probably not a coincidence that RIM was the only SAM system equipped on the LCS; while all of the US Navy's remaining carrier escorts were large AEGIS ships.
     
    Meanwhile, anti-submarine combat had also progressed. The Knox and OH Perry class were designed with the idea that the warship itself may have to engage an enemy submarine in direct combat; which is why it had its own anti-submarine torpedo tubes and the ASROC launcher. The speed of nuclear submarines and their own guided torpedoes had long made this approach suicidal however, hence the switch to using helicopters to attack submarines without fear of retaliation. With this in mind, the only contribution of a multirole frigate in anti-submarine warfare was its helicopter pad - a helicopter pad also present on the LCS.
     
    In short, the problem with the multirole frigate was that too much of its systems had become dead weight. Its SAM systems were more of a liability if it were not up-to-date, and the anti-submarine weapons redundant in the context of using the helicopter for submarine hunting. Indeed, it could be considered wasteful to use multirole frigates in carrier battlegroups since some of their tasks were so mundane - such as the "plane guard" whose mission was to pick up any pilots who may have crashed into the sea while trying to land on the carrier. Is it really necessary for a 4,000 ton frigate with a large number of weapons (most of which it cannot use while so close to the carrier) to be saddled with this role, or is better for a smaller, cheaper vessel like the LCS whose sole anti-air weapon can be used to defend the carrier?
     
    Quiet New Dreadnoughts: Corvettes and Cruisers
     
    Put together, the Burke and the LCS both point to two emerging trends in surface combatants; as well as the dangerous continuation of many navies down the path of the multirole frigate.
     
    First, the Burkes showed it was possible to have a powerful surface combatant theoretically capable of surviving heavy air attack (theoretical as the system has never been tested fully in combat) that nonetheless retains sufficient anti-surface and anti-submarine punch. However, this design requires the ship to be nearly 10,000 tons. The Chinese Type 52D for instance is now around 7,500 tons in weight compared to the original Type 52's 6,000; and the future proposals are definitely looking at a 10,000 ton design. The British Daring class had an even more dramatic size increase, doubling in size from the previous Type 42s. All of these ships are equipped with VLS with actual or theoretical capability to load multiple types of missiles for different missions.
     
    These 10,000 ton "Destroyers" are more rightly classified as "cruisers" given they are also capable of independent action in addition to serving as escort; and their presence spells the obsolescence of the 4,000-5,000 ton "multirole" frigate. The new 10K Cruisers can simply do everything the frigates are supposed to do and better except in terms of acquisition cost; which is why the frigate will remain primarily with budget-stricken navies trying to pursue paper advantages at a discount. The higher-end Corvettes like the Sa'ar V, which are even more cash-strapped implementations of the multirole frigate that also sacrifice seakeeping, may also soon suffer the same fate.
     
    Meanwhile, new 1,000-3,000 ton corvettes like the LCS will be developed to fill the existing gap in warships suitable for low-intensity conflict or mundane tasks with a battlefleet. Given the cost of the 10K cruisers these smaller ships will focus not on packing as many weapons or capabilities as possible, but focus on a handful of roles at the most efficient possible cost. These ships will be characterized by omitting features seen by traditionalists as "standard" pieces of equipment - kept "just in case" - but for the most part really only add to the operating cost of the ship in the long run.
     
    Of course future technological developments may result in new ship types and capabilities - including perhaps a renewed interest in long-ranged naval gunnery. However, I suspect that many of these new technologies will simply be incorporated in the large cruisers and then the smaller corvettes as necessary; and that these two core types will serve as the basis of future surface combatants for the world's fleets.
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    cm_kruger reacted to Sturgeon in WoT v WT effort-thread   
    OK, we can stop using the word "cuck" so damned much, sheesh. Starting to sound like an MRA forum in here...
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    cm_kruger got a reaction from Collimatrix in Syrian conflict.   
    They targeted one Samir Kuntar (or Qantar), a "moderate anti-imperialist secularist" who lead the 1979 Nahariya attack, where he smashed open a 4 year old girl's head with a rifle butt before being captured. Since his release in 2008 in a prisoner swap deal, he's been involved in further terrorist attacks against Israel and apparently has been running a death squad for the Syrian government.
    http://web.archive.org/web/20080724121602/http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/19/lebanon.israelandthepalestinians
     
    The "six to eight" other people killed were apparently mainly Hezbollah field commanders.
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    cm_kruger got a reaction from Sturgeon in Weapons Promotional Videos   
    But for something actually smallarms related, here's the lightweight infantry rifle of the future.

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    cm_kruger got a reaction from xthetenth in The Enema Thread (Moderator: Tied)   
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    cm_kruger got a reaction from Sturgeon in Self-sufficient Wireless Transmitter Powered by Foot-pumped Urine Operating Wearable MFC   
    "Ham radio operator invents method to power radios off of his medical issues."
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    cm_kruger got a reaction from Donward in Self-sufficient Wireless Transmitter Powered by Foot-pumped Urine Operating Wearable MFC   
    "Ham radio operator invents method to power radios off of his medical issues."
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    cm_kruger reacted to Sturgeon in (Most) Soviet Space Capsules were Bad   
    So, I've read period Western sources regarding Voskhod, and IIRC they marveled at the sort of technical wizardry the Soviets must have had to produce a capsule like that capable of launching two people (at the time, they didn't know the Soviets were actually cramming three dudes in the thing) on such short order.

    What they didn't know is that the Vostok and Voskhod capsules were basically just standard size pressurized hamsterballs that you could stuff some dudes into and launch into orbit.

    It's difficult to convey the crudity of the Vostok/Voskhod series through words, so let's use pictures instead. Here's the inside of a Mercury capsule:


     
    Note that it is absolutely jam-packed with instrument panels, dials, switches, etc, exactly what you'd expect of a 1960s-era test vehicle. Let's take another look:


     
    Hot damn, son! Now, what does Vostok look like on the inside?
     

     
    Um...
     

     
    UM...
     

     
    So while the Americans treated the early spaceflights as test projects, the Russians basically said 'fuck it' and stuffed a dude into the space equivalent of a diving bell and launched him up there. Vostok was even piloted from the ground, Gagarin was just along for the ride. Later, they decided that risking just one cosmonaut's life on the Orbital Hamster Ball O' Fun was not stereotypically Soviet enough, so they stuffed three dudes in, instead.
    I concur with Lost that the Russian space program prepared them very poorly for actually achieving things in space. Essentially, launch vehicle technology aside, the Russians were doing exactly jack and shit in space until the Soyuz program.
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    cm_kruger reacted to LostCosmonaut in (Most) Soviet Space Capsules were Bad   
    The Soviets did a lot of good things with their space program. The R-7 was the first and still is one of the best satellite launchers, the Venera probes were cool and got us a lot of data, the RD-180 gets high performance through weird metallurgic sorcery, etc. Unfortunately, a lot of the stuff they did was also crap. Stuff like the N-1 comes immediately to mind, but there were others.
     
    Let's take a look at Vostok, the first manned spacecraft. It is commonly compared to the American Mercury spacecraft. Both had similar purposes; to get a man into space, keep him there for a short time, and return him safely. It did this well. However, Vostok was a bit primitive compared to Merucry;
     
    http://www.astronautix.com/craft/vostok.htm
     
    In my opinion, this made Vostok less useful than Mercury for getting astronauts experience with maneuvering a spacecraft in zero-g, and building knowledge needed for more complex missions.
     
    Also, the Vostok's spherical shape meant that all reentries were purely ballistic, which subjected the cosmonauts to higher g-loads than their American counterparts.
     
    Still, on the whole, Vostok did its job. It's probably not fair to call it bad.
     
     
    Voshkod, on the other hand. Holy shit, motherfucking Voshkod.
     
    People often compare Voshkod to Gemini. Those people are wrong. Gemini was a completely new design, incorporating many advanced features. Voshkod was simply a Vostok with three people crammed inside of it.  The cosmonauts were unable to wear spacesuits, leaving them no options in the event of atmosphere loss. There were no ejection seats or launch abort system (Gemini and Vostok had ejection seats) meaning that a failure of the launch vehicle would have been fatal. The capsule was poorly designed also, with the instruments being difficult to read.
     
    The American Gemini program of about the same time made many pioneering advances in spaceflight. Docking tests were conducted, at first with unmanned targets (Agena), and later with other capsules. Flights at high altitudes beyond low earth orbit were also done. In contrast, Voshkod flights did little to advance human knowledge of spaceflight (aside from Leonov's spacewalk). The best thing that can be said about Voshkod is that it didn't kill anyone, which is more due to luck than good design. The Soviet space program would not accomplish the goals that the Gemini program did until later in the 1960s with Soyuz. By this time the Americans were almost at the moon.
     
    In 2015, the Soyuz capsule has evolved to be an excellent and reliable space transportation system. However, it was not always this way. Let us look at Soyuz 1.
     
    Multiple unmanned tests flights of the Soyuz capsule experienced failures and showed unreliability in the system. http://www.astronautix.com/flights/soyuz1.htmDespite this, Vladimir Komarov launched in Soyuz 1 on April 23 1967. Immediately, he experienced numerous issues. Stuck solar panels, failed maneuvering systems, and other problems meant that the flight had to be terminated after only a day in space. Reentry was mostly successful; however, the main parachute sadly failed, and Komarov was killed on landing. Not only did the failure of Soyuz 1 cause the senseless death of a cosmonaut, but it also set the Soyuz program back by over a year. Had the Soviets waited a few more months to debug the capsule before launching it, it is possible that this could have been avoided.
     
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    cm_kruger got a reaction from Sturgeon in Aerospace Pictures and Art Thread   
    Titanium bulkhead forgings for the F-15.

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    cm_kruger got a reaction from SergeantMatt in Syrian conflict.   
    Yeah that's about what I expected. "Russia could never ever ever ever fuck up! It's was a false flag!!" and a story from a Syrian propaganda outlet.
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    cm_kruger got a reaction from LostCosmonaut in Aerospace Pictures and Art Thread   
    More photos from the 737 pilot turned mercenary Mirage driver for the Libyan government.
     
    http://imgur.com/gallery/vp07e
    http://imgur.com/gallery/LxbUq

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    cm_kruger got a reaction from Sturgeon in Aerospace Pictures and Art Thread   
    More photos from the 737 pilot turned mercenary Mirage driver for the Libyan government.
     
    http://imgur.com/gallery/vp07e
    http://imgur.com/gallery/LxbUq

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    cm_kruger got a reaction from Belesarius in General AFV Thread   
    The LAPD has been using a armored skid loader during the response to today's shooting/attack.
     


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    cm_kruger got a reaction from Collimatrix in General AFV Thread   
    The LAPD has been using a armored skid loader during the response to today's shooting/attack.
     


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    cm_kruger got a reaction from T___A in Air Force Academy (sort of) Admits to Cadet Informant Program   
    Considering the Air Force Academy's history, a Law and Order: SVU style show would be more likely.
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    cm_kruger got a reaction from LostCosmonaut in Air Force Academy (sort of) Admits to Cadet Informant Program   
    Considering the Air Force Academy's history, a Law and Order: SVU style show would be more likely.
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    cm_kruger got a reaction from Belesarius in Saudi Arabia to begin operations in Yemen   
    Well sure you can go to Europe or Russia with bundles of oil money and buy all the expensive and customized weapons you need like you're going into car dealership, but having competent troops is another thing, especially when your military culture holds NCOs/enlisted troops in contempt and fears giving them any sort of initiative.
     
    From 1999:
    http://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars
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    cm_kruger reacted to renhanxue in The Swedish AFV Thread: Not Just Strv 103s   
    Does anyone mind if I post some contextless tank porn? No? I photoed a several decimeters tall stack of photographs at the national archives this summer and I have no idea what to do with them. Should I just turn tanks.mod16.org into a photoblog in the style of Yuri Pasholok? In the meantime, have some samples:
    People on tanks:

    Strv m/42, Stockholm, April 1944.

    Strv m/39, Strängnäs, 1942.

    Strv m/41, Stockholm, 1943.

    Strv m/42, 1944.
    People pretty far above tanks:

    Pvkv m/43 and Saab B17, June 1947.

    Strv m/42 and Saab A21.
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    cm_kruger got a reaction from Collimatrix in The Small Arms Thread, Part 8: 2018; ICSR to be replaced by US Army with interim 15mm Revolver Cannon.   
    The Mini-14 doesn't have barrel flex, it has barrel twerk.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqgPu9gSmVc
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    cm_kruger reacted to Priory_of_Sion in Syrian conflict.   
    There is no good/moderate Islamist groups. There are a few secular democratic groups in Syria and Libya that aren't complete shit and aren't Baathists, but they aren't large enough to hold sway between the Islamists and the Baathists. 
     
    It would be great if those groups could have been better organized and more in the bigger picture of the Middle East, they just aren't. 
     
    It doesn't help that Iran and Saudi Arabia are more in Syria/Iraq to fight a proxy war against each other than to actually solve any problem.
     
    Syria and Iraq are going to have to be split like Yugoslavia. The Alawite Coast and Damascus are not leaving Assad's grip. Sunni Iraq/Syria basically needs the same autonomy as Iraqi Kurdistan which, by the way, could just annex Rojava.
     
    You are going to need the US, Turkey, Gulf States, Russia, Iran, and the EU all come together to work out something like that and all try to work together to smoke out ISIS, JaN, and other Jihadists from Syria & Iraq. However I remain nihilistic about the Middle East. 
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    cm_kruger got a reaction from LostCosmonaut in Unstart's Thread of Good Games with Terrible Graphics   
    Armored Commander is a roguelike based on the 1987 solo boardgame "Patton's Best" by Avalon Hill, where you played the crew of a M4 Sherman during the breakout from Normandy.
    http://www.armouredcommander.com/

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