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General artillery, SPGs, MLRS and long range ATGMs thread.
Renegade334 replied to LoooSeR's topic in Mechanized Warfare
Chanced upon this on imgur: an SPG sound suppressor, at the Military Training Area in Meppen, Germany. Vehicle in question is a M109G. EDIT: -
Do you mean this?
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Looks like a flipped-over FASTDRAW. That turret is guaranteed to have fat cheeks... The XM91 autoloader on the M1 CATTB had 17 rounds and those were 140mm, though that tank was supposed to have TWO extra carousels (22 rounds, folded) inside the hull for reloads:
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That's from the AUSA Global Force Symposium and Exposition from March 26-28 (scroll above on this page).
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^--- ...I...I don't feel so good now. Is there no end to his Gavinitis?
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^-- Also, the steel-encased part does not reveal whether they are talking about a fully-enclosed NERA package (with the steel possibly acting as shatter plate, unless they have DU front plates to fill that role) that's lowered into the armor cavities or if it merely refers to the cavity walls (the "outer skin" of the turret) being made of steel.
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Wasn't the HAP armor previously described as steel-encased NERA arrays with DU backplates or interstitial DU meshing? Can't remember which piece of literature mentioned it or somewhat alluded to it (maybe DOE, not certain).
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@Ramlaen: did you notice this? IMHO, it's a bit small to be the mystery cylinder on the M1A2C, but it's the right shape. A zoom on that part of the exhibit reveals it to be the Blackstone Vehicle Mount Kit (VMK). https://www.leonardodrs.com/media/6608/blackstone_vm_datasheet.pdf
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To illustrate Ramlaen's explanation: P.S. That is, of course, the old XM8, not the current, up-to-date M8. EDIT: didn't realize Ramlaen had already posted them on the first page, I thought I was just re-posting stuff he had only dropped in the AW forums (RIP, BTW).
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General artillery, SPGs, MLRS and long range ATGMs thread.
Renegade334 replied to LoooSeR's topic in Mechanized Warfare
??? Apparently, the M109A8 won't have an autoloader before 2024. Source I'm a bit confused about the first paragraph, since there are already a couple A8s rolling around...unless they are officially not type-classified as M109E8s but as mere version-agnostic testbeds. -
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Given that it has a ring of circular apertures above the main optic, I suspect it's some sort of flash/laser beam detector. Maybe a soft-kill APS component to complement the hard-kill Iron Fist? It's either that or an anti-sniper system (though the latter, like the Raytheon Boomerang, would rely more on microphones, rather than optical sensors, for source triangulation).
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Slightly closer look:
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^-- Except Ramlaen posted pictures attesting to this turret extension (distance from turret edge to ARAT-2 mount and the fact that the turret cheeks now nearly completely cover the gun mantlet's sides). No need for a tinfoil hat here.
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I'm usually skeptical due to angles of capture and possible turret (which also happens to be assymetrical, as it is thicker on the right side to accommodate the commander and gunner stations) traverse angle, but the mount for the foremost ARAT-2 ERA is indeed farther from the turret cheek's corner on the A2C than it is on the A2B. While it is not bode well for the Abrams' weight, it is nice to see its protection is still updated beyond merely swapping the contents of the armor cavities. As for the hull geometry, can't tell on my little screen.
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Part 2 of The Chieftain revisiting the Abrams:
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Just found this in my YouTube suggestions today - the changing of the tracks of a Sherman Firefly, by volunteers at the Belgian tank museum in Bastogne. Dunno if it has already been posted (text is in Flemish, by the way), but here you go: The uploader also has a fair share of tank/army videos.
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Still not known, alas. We suppose it's some sort of anti-IED jammer though I remember seeing pics of an AMPV with that cylinder and a CREW Duke v3, so nothing's certain (unless they cover different parts of the spectrum). It's also suspected it acts in concert with that black bar that's standing next to the driver's hatch. EDIT: yep, it was an AMPV, Mission Command variant. You can clearly see the Duke v3 antenna behind that cylinder. EDIT bis: The only thing I found so far, that remotely looks like that cylinder, is something called the Assured Positioning, Navigation a
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Not too familiar with how you can extract an image URL from an Android browser. Maybe download the picture on your phone (temporarily) then reupload it on imgur or some other filehost then paste the new link here? EDIT: in Chrome, long-press the image you want to repost, then "open image in new tab" then long-press the URL and "copy". Go back to SH, long-press the editor field then "paste".
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As for why your URL wasn't working...there is a difference between: 4l-image-85.jpg and 4I-image-85.jpg One is a lowercase "L", the other is an uppercase "I". Sauce: https://www.army-technology.com/projects/wisent-2-armoured-support-vehicle/
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At least you're not resorting to using condoms for, well, protection... *cough*Desert Storm*cough*
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Not my intent to derail the thread, but when initially looking for more information on SLERA, I often came across contradicting descriptions, wherein the "energetic material" is either full-blown explosive (though either in small portions or the amount of movement imparted to the reactive components is physically limited by the SLERA container) or something "passive" by NATO standards. Either way, I view it as some sort of mild, internal ERA-NERA hybrid (where the gas-producing substance or rubber layer is mixed in with explosives). Dunno whether SLERA offers good multi-hit capability, though.
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Factor of 3. I stand corrected, it's been a while since that topic's been broached.
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Yes, Challenger and Abrams (just to cite two) use some of their multiple fuel tanks (side sponsons and the entire hull area around the driver, respectively) as makeshift protection against HEAT-based weaponry. The fluid simply slows down the HEAT copper jet. I don't have the number in my head right now, but IIRC 8cm of fuel in a HEAT jet's path is the rough equivalent of 1cm of steel (and you have two advantages here: that [filled] fuel tank is obviously going to be lighter than a solid slab of steel and you don't waste internal volume, instead using it to transport more fuel and therefore ext
