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The LIC kit. 

And most important : the under-belly mine protection plate. 

From Japon. 

This is manual. 

To chock the BMP tracks on trailer or train ?

The cost. 

Sabra upgrade was very expensive. So, leaving the cuppola was seen as interesting. They kept the 12,7 for free. 

Can you use

to avoide confusion betwen your texte and someone else one ?

You have not to be facing a threat to take it into account.

Once more : mine protection comes from TMRP-6 probleme. 

On 2 septembre 2017 at 11:21 AM, SH_MM said:

The TDD doesn't have side armor on the turret... never noticed that before.

Both Olifant Mk-1B and Mk-2 armor packages are similar considering there covering.

Heavy armor modules stop at the middle of hatches. 

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Well, the title of the topic is a bit biased and certainly makes it look like this is a bashing topic only, I didn't have the intention to bash anything for no reason.

The CV90 is a popular choice and it is not inferior to most other IFVs, but it is often praised for questionable reasons and has a large fanbase, that sometimes doesn't look at the facts. In so far I think the title chosen by Serge, "Why so much love?", seems to be quite fitting.

The title comes from a French forum where the topic devoted to CV90 is called "CV90, pourquoi tant d'amour ?"

My purpose is not to bash any AFV. My purpose is to collect efficiently, in a dedicated place, informations about CV90 to help anyone to form his own opinion. This is the best to avoid fanboys attitudes.

For me, I was very impressed by the Swedish consistency of the programme.

On 2 septembre 2017 at 2:41 PM, SH_MM said:

In the late 1980s/1990s.

The introduction of mine protection was the discovering of the TMRP-6 in Yougoslavia.

On 2 septembre 2017 at 2:41 PM, SH_MM said:

But I doubt that the CV90's seats were installed for mine protection; first of all BAE Systems mentions no mine protection in their recent presentation, also the belly armor is too thin.

The very purpose of this seat was to enshure the hull low profil by Hagglunds.

Was-it a common practice just to take into account 50% percentile ?

15 minutes ago, Collimatrix said:

When did IFVs start getting suspended seats for mine protection?

Maybe the very first tracked one could have been the Strf-90.

I don't have such a data. 

2 hours ago, Ramlaen said:

How much headspace does that add and how does it compare to other IFV's?

The new roof for Strf-90 is 170mm higher. A rebuilt chassis was made at least 5 years ago. 

To well consider the eight of troop compartment, you must consider seats design first. 

Bradley, Namer... are using basic seats. CV-90s, like SPz-Puma, are using close to the floor configuration to achieve a very low profil compartment.

So, comparison can't be made trough absolute figures but through momentum. By 1998, the Warrior-2000 rear compartment was 50mm higher than the initial MCV-80 one.

The Bradley NG is 178mm, the futur Strf-90 will be 170mm.

3 hours ago, SH_MM said:

CV90 and Bradley. Making an IFV taller than the Bradley would be a real challenge.

Taller than a Bradley : Bradley NG.

3 hours ago, SH_MM said:

Raised roof of a forseen Strf-90C upgrade. 

3 hours ago, SH_MM said:

 

Mk-III hull.

Links to inservices CV90 walkaround or articles :

- Strf-90C : http://www.primeportal.net/apc/roger_johansson/cv9040/

- LVKV-90C :

- BGBV-90 : http://www.primeportal.net/recovery/erik_torp/cv90_arv/

- Norvegian CV-90N : http://www.primeportal.net/apc/vik/cv90_photos.htm

- CV-90N upgrade : https://www.tu.no/artikler/her-er-norges-nye-panservogn/222995

- CV-90 stormingeniørnvogn : https://www.tu.no/artikler/her-er-norske-stormingeniorers-nye-framkomstmiddel/222990

- Swiss Char de grenadiers 2000 :

- Dutch CV-90 : http://www.primeportal.net/apc/arnout_zaal/cv9035_mkiii/

- Danish IKK : http://www.primeportal.net/apc/michael_rener/cv9035/

No more hanging cables. This must be a Mk-II improvment. 

On 24 août 2017 at 10:25 PM, MrMartin said:

New anti-riot vehicle developed by Kalashnikov based on KAMAZ truck.

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Fully Maduro approved. 

Lets start a thread about the CV-90. Past, present, futur. 

Link to the Linström's page about the initial Stridsfordon-90 project :

http://www.ointres.se/projekt_strf90.htm

An interesting SH-MM post about evolution of CV-90 :

And a summary about contenders for the forseen Czech IFV programme :

http://below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.pt/2017/08/which-new-ifv-for-czech-army.html?m=1

From a well known blog.

India is not known for spying stuff 

Make my day.

A friend of mine told how the 155mm Trojan evaluation was made by India. It was an exceptional reverse engeneering organisation. 

Arjun, the very first armor-free MBT. The vegan tank. 

Yes. 

The Leclerc MBT front section is specificaly the section of French tunnels.

You have storrage all around the armored roof. 

13 hours ago, Collimatrix said:

If you think you have enough material, go ahead and make one!

CV-90 is one vehicle I don't know much about.

I don't have it but we do have it. 

I will open one about it. It will help keeping clear material and talks. 

Look at the T14 thread. I worth to be split because it deels about both K17 and Kurganets-25 too. 

I've found it :