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  1. Yeah, it shocked me the first time I read it, like what the hell was the Army thinking sending them our best tank!

     

    Yep. It's also interesting how the report and opinion on it is actually true. Though many of the issues were fixed by the M46 [fumes entering turret, engine, classification, etc], it still wasn't enough and it's not a modern heavy tank.

  2. Thanks.. Didn't know that. Quite interesting actually.

     

     

    They should also replace the Challenger bits with like an Abrams while they are at it 

     

    Also should make a 140mm rifled [cause they're british] cannon, which has a HUGE muzzle flash and call that variant M1 Firefly (because of the muzzle flash). Also, at first, it should have bad accuracy.  And it should also penetrate the Leopard 2A5+'s mantlet frontally.

     

    Then they should try to strap 4 300mm rockets to the sides of the turret and call that variant Firefly Tulip. Normal M1A4 should also get it.

  3. This thing have about same armor as soviet MBTs, while being 10-15 tons heavier. Good job, Germany, now get rid of loaders, they weight 10 tons.  :)

     

    You see tovarish, they're Germans. From glorious Germany. They have to keep tradition of armor development!

     

    IS-3 vs Tiger II armor! See?

  4. We are still in the stage of moving equipment, damn it!

    BTW those towns are attacked by groups with very small amount of Syrians in them. Majority are from different countries in the region and some number of tadjiks, uzbeks, chechens, africans.

     

    Need moar speed :D

     

    Yeah, we have people here from Libya, Syria, etc telling us that most of the terrorists are not actually of Libyan/Syrian/etc origin, and there are many foreigners. Kinda scary to be honest. Hired PMCs..? Meh.

  5. Pretty sure you posted it here.  T110 thread is on the World of Tanks game forum.  Don't go there.  It will give you gonnareaherpsyphlyAIDS.

     

    I am a:

     

    - WT forum veteran

     

    - WoT forum veteran scout 

     

    - AW forum veteran

     

    so yeah, I got all the diseases already.

  6. Ported from AW forums:

     

    t-72exp_1.jpg

     
    It's generally thought that the export variants of the T-72 Main battle tank are actually monkey models, or dumbed down in one way or the other, however this is only partially true. The only one that can be considered a true monkey is the T-72M, which featured a T-72 model turret, T-72 model suspension, while being based off the T-72A. Generally, however, the export models are newer than the actual variant. For example, T-72 is from 1971, while the export model is from 1975. Like wise, the T-72A is from 1979, yet, the T-72M1 was produced in 1982. It should be worth noting that in 1982.
     
    Now, without further talk, lets explore the variants!
     
    - Object 172M-E/E1 "T-72 Export"
     
    This tank is the T-72 Ural Obr. 1975 offered for export. The Objekt 172M-E is for Warsaw Pact countries, while the Objekt 172M-E1 is for third world countries/any country outside the Warsaw Pact. It's a literal copy of the T-72 Ural obr. 1975. This tank is pictured above, in a parade in East Germany, identified as the "Gerät 172M", this tank was unveiled to the public in 1979, in that parade. The primary difference between the E and E1 is the NBC system. 
     
    - Object 172M-E3/E4 "T-72M"
     
    t-72m_1.jpg

     
    This tank is the T-72A obr. 1979, however it comes with several limitations. The primary difference is the turret. Unlike the T-72A, the T-72M has the turret's cavity filled with sand instead of the traditional multi layer armor mounted on the T-72A. Like the T-72 Export, the T-72M comes in 2 versions; Object 172M-E3 and Object 172M-E4, the E3 is offered for Warsaw Pact countries, and the E4 is for the rest of the world. It should be worth mentioning that the turret is also the Cast turret mounted on the T-72 Ural, not the composite turret mounted on the T-72A. It also has the old commander sight of the T-72, and not the upgraded one on the T-72A. Furthermore, it features the old suspension of the T-72 Ural, not the T-72A's upgraded suspension. The T-72M was offered and produced in 1980. The Object 172M-E4 has the same NBC protection as the Object 172M-E1.
     
    - Object 172M-E5/E6 "T-72M1"
     
    t-72m1_1.jpg

     
    This tank is the same as the T-72M, however it features the upgraded suspension, turret and commander sight of the T-72A. It also comes with additional armor bolted on the Upper Frontal Plate of the tank. The T-72M1 was offered and produced in 1982. Like the T-72M and T-72 Export, it features 2 variants. The E5 for the Pact, the E6 for the rest of the world. The E6 has the same NBC protection as the Object 172M-E1.
     
    - Object 172M-E7 "T-72S" 
     
    This tank is an upgrade over the T-72M1, and features the latest technology available. The 1A40 FCS, the Kontakt-V Reactive armor, and so on. However, such technology does not come cheap -- Indeed, the Object 172M-E7 did not find any customers due to a very high price tag. The Object 172M-E7 was offered for export and produced in the late 80s. 
     
    - Object 172M-E8 "T-72S"
     
    t-72s_1.jpg

     
    The high price tag of the Object 172M-E7 led to development of a tank produced for export utilizing older and cheaper technology. The tank features Kontakt ERA, the 1A40 FCS and a specialized night sight made to specially fire laser guided ATGMs. This tank was produced and offered in 1987. It is similar to the older early T-72B. It is NOT identical to the T-72B obr. 1988. It looks similar to the T-72B obr. 1987, however. I am not sure which B model it is based on. However, oddly enough, in Iraq, after the war, one example was found in Iraq. 
     
    One important detail: The E7 and E8 were merged together at one point. The tank found in Iraq was designated E7, however it had the properties of the E8.
     
    @Iraqi T-72S: A Marines friend who served in Iraq told me that they found a T-72S with the laser targetting and the new sights and the new FCS, which means that it could fire ATGMs, however they found no ATGMs with the tank. Whether the tank itself fired any ATGMs or not, nobody knows. Yet.
     
     
    - Object 172M-E9 "T-72S1"
     
    For users who are too poor to purchase the normal T-72S, this tank, like the T-72B1 was produced. It uses a cheaper night and day sight. As a consequence it cannot fire ATGMs. It is identical to the T-72S in everything but the inability to fire ATGMs. Visually, it's identical to the T-72S.
     
    It should be worth noting that unlike the previous export models, the Object 172M-E9, E8 and E7 do not have different versions for Warsaw Pact/other nations. It's only one version.
     
    This tank was exported to Iran (along with the E8) after the collapse of the USSR.
     
    Notice on the Object 172M-E7, E8, E9: Western and Russian sources conflict here. Western sources mention nothing on the E7 being advanced, and mentions it as the E8, but for Warsaw Pact, while the E8 is for the rest of the world. I decided to rely on Kampfpanzer.de for these 3 tanks, instead of the Western sources, since I cannot read Russian well and that site uses Russian sources.
     
    Pictures also taken from Kampfpanzer.de.
     
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    That's all for now. It should be worth noting that this only covers Soviet era export T-72s. The Russian era export T-72s are different, and in 2013, an upgrade called "T-72M1mod" was offered to modernize the T-72M/M1 to modern standards. I may cover export T-90s and modern T-72s later.
     
    Please point out any mistakes.
  7. ide armor in that part is pretty weak and video from Yemen showed how M1A2S was engaged from the front with very old Konkurs ATGMs with very good results for ATGM team, when missile smashed into turret bustle at high angle and still managed to set it on fire.

     

    The M1A2S did not have the bustle closed at that time.

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