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44 minutes ago, Walter_Sobchak said:
What proof do you have that these women are lying?
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Do you hear that? It's the foundations of the liberal justice system crumbling because one political bent lost an election.
I sure do think burden of proof being on the accused is the best course of action! Yessiree! That's how we'll get rid of mean Cheeto man!
Why, I think Salem is the model of the future!
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I'm not even fucking right wing. Up until about a year ago I was pretty solidly voting democrat. But holy fuck am I becoming disgusted on a visceral level at the left.
Trump being a braggadocious showman is not the same as this crucible shit. The only side I'm consistently (and word for word in cases) hearing "there are no bad tactics, just bad targets" is the left.
Jesus fucking Christ, "you guys elected a smug jerk so burying every political figure we can under spurious to downright ridiculous claims is just fair". What a farce.
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2 minutes ago, Sturgeon said:
@Lostwingman that body language video feels like being born again.
Yea it was really eye opening to me since I was mostly listening to the hearing and when I was watching it was watching it on my phone. So I couldn't really pick up as much of the visual cues.
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17 minutes ago, Sturgeon said:
Yeah I'm watching the shit that went down yesterday and yes please drop a fucking meteor on me
Oh yesterday? He was relatively insufferable but I felt he was worse today. Maybe less obtuse.
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1 minute ago, Sturgeon said:
I want to die shut the fuck up Cory
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24 minutes ago, Sturgeon said:
The fucking Democrats in this hearing are driving me crazy. Beyond the "oh so brave" BS, they keep claiming Ford is credible because her story is inconsistent, full of holes, and nonsensical.
After visiting an older CNN watching relative today and hearing her hot take that she now believes Ford because "Brett doth protest too much", I started thinking more about the arguments and statements of the hearing and am now even more baffled that anyone can take her seriously. I thought back and realized that every single democrat spent at least half their time reiterating over and over again how brave and stunning Ford was. Then making big emotioned statements about how "you being here testifying is all the proof of these allegations that we need". It was a trash fire from a logical perspective.
Also, I believe you mentioned something about Ford's body language? I'm about to watch this video since it got posted in another forum. I'll post it here too.
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41 minutes ago, Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect said:
Man, I'm just enjoying the fact that the left, in making fun of a man showing emotion, is perpetuating toxic masculinity.
They're always running these catch 22s. That's why it's worthless to cater to those morons.
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18 minutes ago, Belesarius said:
who legit are concerned that they don't want someone who is of that bent on the court.
What bent is that exactly? Perhaps it is one fabricated from these claims which no one, even Ford herself, can consistently and accurately corroborate? I think you've already countered your own point about "oh what harm has been done in all this!".
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1 minute ago, Belesarius said:
Except the narrative is falling apart without even a serious investigation. Frankly, if an investigation went through, there might be grounds for perjury and conspiracy charges to be filed by the FBI, from what I'm looking at.
And if there was a chance that a Supreme Court Judge who is pretty much appointed for life was a rapist, I'd think that it should be checked out pretty thoroughly. And frankly, if I was the Judge, I'd want to have my name pretty convincingly cleared. Now after some of the discussions I've had here, I dunno if I'd trust the FBI to be the agency doing the investigation, but that has to do with the competence of the people running that organization. Also, why the fuck hasn't he filed slander/libel charges?
At this point we've seen countless times where false stories are spread out far and wide with the retractions and corrections being barely noticed if noticed at all. It won't matter. It doesn't matter in the case of public perception because this is the most wild and memorable part of this whole process and it's the part where he's being labeled a rapist. Barring Feinstein taking a shotgun to her staff and then barricading herself into some DC office. The past few days are what is going to in people's memory because that's what has been reported on wall to wall. Everything later might as well be a local weather report for all the people who will see it and have it committed to long term memory.
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4 minutes ago, Belesarius said:
How would his life be ruined if he was not selected as a Supreme Court Justice? Serious question. The whole selection process is basically a really involved job interview. If he doesn't get the job, how is his life ruined? He's still a Superior Court Judge, IIRC.
I've been bitching out a few people about the whole 'burden of proof' dialogue. Both on the left for calling for the FBI to investigate the guy to those on the right for saying stuff like this will 'ruin his life.' What is the burden of proof for deciding that a Candidate for a job isn't the right fit? Because that's what this process is. To see if Kavenaugh (sp) is fit to be a member of the Supreme Court. Now, I thought that the Republicans would just shove this guy through... they had the votes from the start. But man, this has been an ugly process. It's a very different process than selecting a Supreme Court Judge up here in Canuckistan. The process is much less political here.
Because you don't just walk away from a national smear campaign to label you a rapist. Unless you suddenly think that the label "rapist" doesn't hold any weight in society.
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4 minutes ago, Jeeps_Guns_Tanks said:
Yeah, her story is coming apart, them Dems are freaking out and they are making all kinds of threats on twitter, doxxing Republican Senators and Generally acting like entitled children so basically par for the course since November of 2016.
It's like people of the leftest bent have forgotten you need evidence to ruin someone's life, and vague accusations by what is looking to be like a lightweight democrat operative, have backfired on them.
Maybe the Karma Gods will strike down that evil commie RDB next.
I've been around a lot of intersectional feminists that this new kind of burden of proof is being pushed by. These people have a completely different moral compass, utterly foreign to a liberal individualist society. The leftists in my experience evaluate things by identity. You can literally be more or less guilty of something by your identity to some of these people.
Also Diane Feinstein...Kamala Harris...Maxine Waters...Nancy Pelosi....just fucking sink into the ocean already California.
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15 minutes ago, Jeeps_Guns_Tanks said:
Oh yeah, it was brutal! It was subtle though and the mainstream media is ignoring it. I wonder if the Dems will stick her with the Lawyer bills since she failed them.
Apparently her currently lawyer was recommended to her by Feinstein. I suppose after flogging Feinstein in the streets she can be made to pay for the lawyer too. Since the whole dumb strategy seems to have been her brain child.
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4 hours ago, Jeeps_Guns_Tanks said:
So, just what do the idiot democrats want to be investigated? All the witnesses refute her story! All she has is character references and a few people who can say, she mentioned it, a few years ago, never using Kavanaugh name. Based on that, and not knowing a date, time or location, they literally have nothing to investigate.
It's also clear, that cunt Di Fi, hid Ford's letter from the committee so she had something to spring on them at the last minute and fuck Ford wanting to be anonymous. Diane Feinstein is an embarrassment to the human race, who is so old and senile, she probably forgot she leaked it. She just straight up lied right to the American people.
I listened to almost the whole thing, and at first the Reps seemed weak, but the prosecutor did chip away enough at Fords credibility, to make it seem like her calling out she can 100% identify Kavanaugh, but basically nothing else of substance. What she said about memory doesn't fit with the current science. Basically, she came off as a confused, weird woman, who probably had his name planted in her memory at best and does not actually remember as well as she claims, or a political hack/operative at worst. But this all leave the Dems with no sound bites of big-name reps attacking a "victim". Kavanaugh came out of the corner strong, handled the questions well, and the Dems almost universally came off as assholes.
I think this is a win.
The one fact that came out of this that no one can dispute, is that Diane Feinstein played games with the committee and fucked both Ford and Kavanaugh, so she could delay the whole process. Normally this would have all been handled in secret, as Ford had requested.
That prosecutor was a beast. I know she got Ford to basically make an idiot of herself multiple times but there are two that really stood out. The segment about how she was apparently frightened of flying...but apparently would take vacations to French Polynesia and Tahiti and shit. Then she absolutely broke her on the wheel of questioning how she avoided being interviewed by a professional and instead opted for this farcical method, which the prosecutor led into by making the "Psychology Professor" admit to the difference between those interview methods.
The Ford segment was like a slow drip of ruin and Kavenaugh was an absolute avalanche.
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2 minutes ago, Ramlaen said:
Was that huge bottle of coke they gave Ford supposed to reference Anita Hill?
I thought it was product placement since Coke doesn't use gofundme.
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7 minutes ago, Donward said:
If Lindsay Graham is showing gumption on this, I’m confident that he’ll put pressure on whatever wobbly GOP senators are thinking of wavering.
Although his doing so pretty much confirms my suspicion that doing so means Kavanaugh is part and parcel with the DC Establishment; hardly surprising given his pedigree.
Oh yea, that was absolutely clear from finding out that Ford grew up in the DC suburbs and went to one of the all girl prep schools there. I can imagine that part of the credibility was that Kavenaugh grew up in the same area. All I can hope for is that he's competent and principled. So far, that's what I'm seeing. Especially in the face of this hysterical smear campaign.
7 minutes ago, Jeeps_Guns_Tanks said:Yeah he really slammed the scumbag dems.
It's weird actually liking him.
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Lindsey Graham's balls sure have dropped since McCain died holy fuck.
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1 minute ago, Scolopax said:
I've gotten two text messages today from random numbers asking if I would pledge to help stop the nomination of kavanaugh and end the GOP's abuse of congress. That's the first time I've gotten political calls/messages on my phone.
Yo the lives of millions are on the line.
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6 minutes ago, T___A said:
Holy shit how you can so detached from reality:
I legitimately despise vultures like this.
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11 minutes ago, Donward said:
Looking back on life, I guess I should have kept a detailed diary and calendar of everything I did and where I was at from middle school on forward while not throwing out anything.
#HoardingfortheWin
I kinda kept one for like a year and a half when I was tracking my workouts. I should go back to doing that.
My god Kavenaugh is drawing and quartering them.
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5 hours ago, Donward said:
And so the shitshow begins. Any predictions?
Seen about 95% of it since it started, this has been BAD for the Dems. Like a fucking slaughter. They're going to need the sound bite machine to go in full overdrive to not get flogged in the streets.
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37 minutes ago, Ulric said:
From a discounted view of this situation, is hilarious. They strategy goes from "delay for procedural reasons" to "he might have groped a drunk chick 36 years ago" to "he was the Mastermind behind a serial rape gang that terrorized DC in the 80s".
Was Kavenaugh the REAL toybox killer tho?
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1 hour ago, Donward said:
Game Over?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/23/us/politics/kavanaugh-senate-calendar.html
Kavanaugh has a calendar from 1982 showing him as either out of town or preoccupied with sports or other social outings; it does not list attending a party at the house mentioned by the accuser.
How did the Russians get access to the calendar tho?
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9 minutes ago, Ramlaen said:
So which woman do I believe so I won't be a sexist though?
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31 minutes ago, T___A said:
At a cursory glance, I really hope this happens.
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I too think that proceduraly slowing things down and dragging your feet is equivalent to trying to smear and ruin someone's life and family. I know when I don't like someone, I try to make them unable to function in regular society! Yep! I too remember when Sotomayor was alleged to have child sex dungeons in her basement. Wew lad, wild times.
What are you talking about? Trump is a literal retard who needs to watch the gorilla channel or he'll throw his mac and cheese at the wall!
Can you explain how, besides being conservative and these current allegations that have literal negative evidence for happening, that this is the case? I'm being serious. Just like I'm waiting for Trump's apparent right wing death squads to round up the messicans, I'm curious what do you think is soo particularly bad about this guy for women?
Doesn't mean he can't be right sometimes. But you see, I'm the kind of person who listens to what people say and try to evaluate that without using my prior feelings about them to just discount them. I'm sure your not familiar with that though.