Kal

Australia has an economy dependant upon moving kit much heavier than a namer over vast distances.  A dragline bucket could scoop a namer and have room to spare.

Australia would enjoy the safety benefits of a namera class vehicle.  But why?

The boxers are for our global peacekeeping missions, this next phase is more for defense of australia/png. 

What vehicles is suitable for both open desert and mountainous forrest?  I suspect the korean offering is more applicable to australia than generally considered.  

That countryside looks a lot like Australia at the moment

General engineering principle for roads is called the 4th power.  Road damage is approximate to axle loads to the 4th power. So 60 tonne over 4 axles is roughly 5 times more damage than 60 tonne over 6 axles.

The boxer crv also makes me cringe for road damage. 

Maybe israeli roads are tougher than australian roads

Hmmm

4 axles carrying the weight of a Namera?

Road damage

Recon is best un seen, so that excludes armour anyway.

CRV is about being seen, so that includes heavy armour.

If australia wants recon, they probably call the airforce.  If they want recon with bite, its the airforce and a spike missle.

Neither really lets the locals that you have their back.  CRV lets the locals know that you are also local.

Agree, the storyboard for CRV is quite clear, its a heavy shield to withstand an ambush and fight back.   

Lightweight recon, get a drone.  

But yes ADF might be sleepwalking to boxers everywhere.  Not a bad concept, i'ld prefer if rear axle were slighly steerable (lower tyre wear, lower street wear.)

A more deadly battlefield requires tougher armour. Be it through weight or APS.

Are tracks better than wheels?  Thats a more fundamental question.

Any update?

Sure, if a win win deal could be reached.

But it may not meet their particular requirements.   

40mm starts being too large to cost efectively shoot at infantry, but too small to shoot at fortifications/AFVs

The bigger the main round gets, the more useful the secondary gun becomes.

Not surprised.  After EuroTiger, Aus defense is a little touchy about ready to go hardware.

Lithuanian boxers use Raphael unmanned weapon station.

So thats a solution.

Poland is not even allowed to add it own excellent ceramic ERA to its second hand leo 2.  We had issues upgrading the leo 1.   I expect the modular nature of the boxer makes 3rd party components more contracturally OK when limited to just the module, but the Germans are aggressively possessive about vehicles they "sell"

Lynx vs Boxer

2 vehicles to be shortlisted

(Because 3 is too many to understand and explain)

http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/Multimedia/LAND400_CloseCombatStoryboard-9-5562.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjAlLfy0N7bAhVDNJQKHe0lCtkQFjAAegQIABAB&usg=AOvVaw314kki6PRMkDsI_6MJLC17

Land400 storyboard

Ok, should work

Why place the gunners sights where a bit of gun elevation will blind it to precisely what it is shooting at?

What is the likelyhood of singapore bionix ifv apc entry?

The australian hard rock underground mined are an abusive vehicle environment, rockier than Golan or Afghanistan.  And generally full of sulphide ores that rapidly corrode alumunium etc.  The miners get paid bonus by production, and drive the vehicles rough and hard.   Sure the componentry is designed for serviceability (not arms resistence)  but the general construction of bisalloy high strength and high hardnesd steels, along with diesel and hydraulic expertise, equates to a solid foundation for manufacturing competency.  I doubt that Canberra cares but 67% Australian content implies superior uptime and training results for the users.  Train hard, drive hard, perform well.

The sentinal ii was a more realistic solution than procurement could comprehend.

Elphinestone tasmania had made about 5,000 underground vehicled over the past few decades. I used to drive a 2900 loader.  The bucket and other components would probably be bissaloy armour plate, the body more general steel.

Vehicle weight empty 50 tonnes

Vehicle weight loaded 67 tonnes

Elphinstone Tasmania may not know how to design weapons, but their ability to manufacture off road machines that are tank weight, and used in highly abusive environments was excellent.