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DIADES

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  1. We will see real offered configurations at Land Forces Conference in Brisbane in June 21
  2. Zero. CoA runs competitive closed tender evaluation. That process will not be complete until late 2022 when the winner is announced. Even after that, nothing from the trials will be public. Once deliveries start in 2025, we may get to see info on what is being delivered.
  3. Yep, load of marketing.... Iron Fist integrated with Iron Vision is vaporware. Per my earlier post - 18 month delay on basic Iron Fist integration. These systems have been substantially oversold.
  4. Interesting - no. Just text strings. I am using in Firefox?
  5. LOL, I tried. I can only see the front two. All I see on the back are the Iron Fist RADARs and IR
  6. Your pics don;t come across? Just a random string of characters
  7. Nah - looks like that is PR too. The Elbit LWS looks like that with no Iron Vision. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjj0qbxxb3rAhWYwzgGHUfPDZUQFjACegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Felbitsystems.com%2Fmedia%2FLWS_5_Web.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3XAt7o4HHJzNalXLLo-vUa
  8. hmmm. Indeed. Still that will only see forward while Iron Vision is 360 degree. Plus the lens (if that is what they are) look too small?
  9. I think the problems are deeper and are more to do with basis system maturity in Israel. I hear (unsubstantiated) rumors of increasing system mass, power demand and shock loads on the turret plus decreasing threat defeat capabilities...
  10. While on the topic - latest reports in Defence Technology Review talk of 18 month delay for L400 Phase 2 integration due to lack of system maturity. https://defencetechnologyreview.partica.online/defence-technology-review/dtr-sep-2020/flipbook/36/
  11. Just hate PR - love the idea, but this ain't it.
  12. Yes, Iron Fist IR and RADAR sensors are there. Each RADAR sensor has a dedicated IR sensor. IR is on all the time and if it sees a muzzle flash or rocket exhaust, it turns the RADAR on to detect and track a possible incoming threat. The RADARs are off by default as they use a lot of power and give the host vehicle a RADAR cross section you could see from the moon. Iron Fist has no sensors of use at all for human vision. These sensors are outside the visible spectrum. There are also a pair of LASER warning receivers. There is no Iron Vision camera array on this turret. If you look around the web you will see that Iron Vision fitted demonstrators have a multi-camera array. This turret does not. Yes, the gunners sight is present and that is the only feed available on this turret. Utterly pointless to use a headset with it. The sight points where the gun is pointing and vice versa. Useless for situational awareness (no peripheral vision) and a headset is useless for aiming the weapon. The gun is a gun, not a missile which you can point in roughly the right direction. Don't get me wrong - I am a fan of Iron Vision and the whole concept of fused data streams, images, targeting systems etc. But, my point is that this specific vehicle/turret does not have have the claimed capabilities.
  13. Except there are no cameras on this actual turret. EOS are just the token Australian party - the turret is Elbit.
  14. yes there are. They are drivers cameras that have the FoV a driver needs. There are no cameras on the turret, no flank cameras anywhere. So, not Iron Vision which uses stitched together camera images to mimic seeing through the hull and turret. The video tries to show the turret moving with the operators head movements. But he can't see anything cos - no situational awareness cameras. So, PR puffery.
  15. CGI or splice bullshit. No cameras on turret so.... Real able to see thru the steel turret tech or, pure CGI
  16. Anybody remember the 1957 UK defence paper that killed TSR-2 (among other things) as the age of manned aerial combat was over......? Here we go again.
  17. Several LYNX variants have blades too. Then there are mine plows. Yes, I get what you are saying but I am sticking to my guns. The loads are different - being fine with one is not the same as being fine wit the other. BTW, I was part of a wheeled loaded design team a while back. - I do get what you are saying.
  18. Not higher, different. The spectral power density distributions are different. Which is why there are specialist producers of construction machines and specialist producers of military machines. The environments and needs are different.
  19. I had a good look at these "armour" modules at Eursatory - they are dummies, purely for show. But I agree, we have not seen what was actually offered by either Rheinmetall or Hanwha. The armour capabilities required are defined by the Spec and yes, bomblet protection is required as is IED and EFP. Both contenders will offer solutions. No. Not possible. This would be a breach of the Phase 3 RMA contract conditions. There will be differences permitted but they are about test practicalities, not configuration with respect to features. So, turrets can have dummy APS (for example) providing one has real. The RMA compares one configuration from Rheinmetall and one from Hanwha. Yes, each provides 3 vehicles but that is to facilitate the test program, not for config differences. Rheinmetall and Hanwah can SHOW as many different configs as hey like to the public, but only one will be considered by CoA during RMA.
  20. Same caliber, same ammunition capabilities, same performance, give or take. In Capability terms (as used by CoA), they are identical. Defeat certain threats at certain ranges. How well they are integrated into the respective turrets will be the real difference.
  21. they won on price, which makes sense, they are trying to establish themselves and they probably have better continuity of production which will help their cost base. OK, I was being hyperbolic when I said "crane" My real point is that there is presently zero Liebherr combat vehicle experience.
  22. not what I meant. The LYNX torsion bar suspension is very evolved, very mature reliable etc. But conceptually, dates to the 40s and actually is little different from Leopard 1. The details of the torsion bar mounts and track return rollers look identical to Leopard 1. It is plain Jane - no functionality. The Hanwha hydra-pneumatic in arm set up offers some packaging advantages (potentially anyway) as internal height can use space where the torsion bars are not present. And obviously, inherently capable of ride height control and posture control. It is not known (to me anyway) if Hanwha is implementing those features on Redback but I would be very surprised if they are not.
  23. I absolutely agree. Very good product. But, fighting vehicles operate in much more demanding conditions. In particular - speed. High cross country speed imposes shock and vibration far beyond anything seen by any civil tracked machine. And slopes are traversed that would not be attempted by civil machines - unsafe but military imperative.over rules. Then there is fuel type and quality - AFVs are multi-fule and need to run on just about anything Yes, Liebherr make very good engines but this will the first combat vehicle for them so there will be lessons to be learned. If we are talking technical risk, MTU is near zero and Liebherr is higher.
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