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Almost all my model stuff is here, and if I took the cats bed shelf away I'd have room to build again. Painting presents a problem though. Still, it would be nice to spend a little time building kits and less time wasting time on forums. 

Oh that is a good choice, Jeeps!

I'm about half way through "From Hot Air to Hellfire”, and it's been a good read so far.  It started with very detailed info about the Apache raid that kicked off gulf war one, and then moves into the history as far back as the end of WWII.

I always wondered how much of the infighting between the Air Force and Army over them arming helicopters in the W.E.B Griffin’s “The Brotherhood of War” series was true. Not only was the overall story in the books true, it didn’t cover nearly enough how bad the air force was.

Apparently the Army had to depend on the Air force for aircraft procurement, so when they went to them with a plan for purchasing more helicopters and bigger fixed wing assets, the main General in charge of procurement said no. They had to bypass them, eventually taking control of their own aircraft procurement.  That’s just one example there are several more. 

The Air Force had issues with the Army arming the choppers that had as well, and tried to kill of programs like the Cheyenne. They didn’t want the Army doing close air support, but was unwilling to develop anything to do the job themselves. At least until the canceling of the Cheyenne forced the Air Force to keep the A-10, and they’ve been trying to kill it off almost from the time it deployed.

It’s also interesting how the Huey Cobra kinda snuck it’s way into production after being basically developed on Bells dime.

Anyway, so far so good heh.

Tell us more bed time stories Colli! That was great!

So here's a question, where can I find an ASUS motherboard temp sensor? The motherboard has a port for it, but I can't find one anywhere to purchase. 

Wow. For a state that is so lovely, California is terrible. There are occasional burn bans in Seattle and we get bad air in the summer and always a few weeks in the dead of winter where we have some still, dead days. But I live far enough out in the country where that doesn't matter.

It really is both lovely and horrid.  Though I think state wide CCW permits just got passed.  That's something. 

Wood stove baby. Up here in the Pacific Northwest wood can be had for free if you have a truck and don't mind a little exercise. I am sitting here with the fire crackling, sipping Trader Joes tea and eating peanut brittle.

(Another couple weeks until we get Internet though. On the IPhone).

I live in Cali, we will have all kinds of "Spare the Air" days, where if you burn wood, they fine you. And they have sniffer trucks that go out looking for people to fine. Cali sucks. 

Heh, I've been there, the old system above was in a room the sun beat down on all afternoon, with it going during the summer the room was terrible. 

I went out and bought a free standing 10,000BTU AC unit and a big sheet of that aluminum backed foam insulation and sealed the window off, hooked the AC exhaust hose up through the sheet. The room was pitch black with the light off.  So I had this pitch black room, with that case with the sharp aluminum door stocking out, it made for cut up and bruised legs since the room wasn’t all that big. 

I'm kinda counting on the computer helping heat the room this winter. This apartment has those shitty electric wall heaters. 

I'm not really sold on either the Xbox or PS4 just yet. 

I suppose it may boil down to the price dropping and a PS4 version of Gran Turismo coming out, though I hear Forza is good too.  Gaming is just so much better on a PC in most cases. 

God no wonder it took three hours to get that thing hooked up. That's a bit nuts and it clearly predates cable management as a concept. The controller's cool though, but modern software stuff with fan curves is cooler yet.

 

And it's back when AMD was a good buy. God.

 

My first build was a Core 2 Duo with an 8600 GT that I got late enough to step up to an 8800 GT. I did that build at just the right time to get two revolutionary bits of price/performance new hotness. And then I stuck it all in an NZXT Apollo in orange because that build apparently predated good taste, although it had this cool art deco-y look to it.

 

And yeah. A full gig, you were a cool dude back then.

Yeah, that thing ran BF2 and WoW very well!

And yeah Cable what? I had built systems before, but the cases always had one or two fans that were just plugged into the PSU, the PSU that came with the case, and were even hooked up sometimes. I opened that case and it had a shitton of cables just hanging. It had little temp probes too.  I hated the case once I got used to it. The power switch was behind  a heavy and sharp door and that got old very fast.  I had just broken up with a fiancé' so I went a little overboard.  In fact, I just talked to a geek buddy and said, hey, if you were going to build a PC, and money was no concern, what would it be. 

He sent me an email, to my beta Gmail account, with a link to Newegg, with all the parts on that list, and I said fuck it, and bought it. Of course the ram wasn't the right kind, that mobo needed registered DDR, and that processor was nearly as expensive as the video card at the time too. But it really did last a lot longer than a medium build. 

JESUS CHRIST A WHOLE GIGABYTE

 

(Also, does it depress anyone else that the Xbox 360 has half a gig of RAM? PS3, too. So basically, games have been hobbled by terribad hardware for the past eight years.)

What does the new Xbox and PS4 have? 

Thanks for all the info guys!

I was thinking about it, the last time I built a system like this, SATA had just come out, my motherboard had it, but the version of Windows XP I was installing wouldn't recognize SATA drives to install on. So I had to use IDE CD-ROM and hard drives. I got awesome round ribbon cables, that had neon lights on them!

The case was a big aluminum Thermaltake it had 7 fans, and a fan speed controller, but it didn’t come wired up. Hooking all the fans up took 3 hours! According to Newegg, the build was 2004.

This was the build, it cost 1800 bucks all together.  

·         1 x Thermaltake Xaser V Damier V6420AU Silver 1.0 mm All aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply

·         1 x AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 SledgeHammer 2.4GHz Socket 940 Processor ADAFX53BOX

·         1 x CORSAIR XMS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 466 (PC 3700) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWINX1024-3700PT

·         1 x Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6B300S0 300GB 16MB Cache SATA 1.5Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive Bare Drive

·         1 x ASUS SK8V 940 VIA K8T800 ATX AMD Motherboard

·         1 x ASUS AX800PRO/TVD/256 Radeon X800PRO 256MB 256-Bit GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card

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It was a pretty bad ass system for the time. It stayed viable for a long time with a video card upgrade. Good times.

Sweet, I can look through the stack of SATA drives I've collected!

I may find lost porn or photo collections. 

When you put a new install of an OS on a computer it should give you a choice between the two installed OSes in a nice little screen. I tend to try out new versions of windows, so I've seen it a bunch.

 

I'm pretty sure there's absolutely no problems with installing the same OS on the same motherboard, after all, what happens if your hard drive dies and you have to replace it?

 

Here's a bit of a microsoft guide to the whole process.

So I should be able to take an old SATA drive, hook it up, boot off my Windows install, and then browse the drive and delete it's windows install or format the drive?

O/S is a good thing to put on another drive, but moving is kind of a pain. Basically if you've got your install media you can pretty much throw a new install on and go from there. You can then copy the contents of your libraries over and it's pretty smooth sailing from there, the main pain is setting up installs again and getting the installations that like to have registry keys reinstalled. Steam games you can just copy over your steamapps folder into the steamapps folder of a new steam install. Tanks will probably want a new install.

 

Moving would be ugly and probably be a matter of drive cloning tools, I don't have experience there.

 

Even if I could tell you WOWS system requirements I'd put no faith in them, alpha and all.

I have my windows disk, so a reinstall should be no problem.  Installing Windows went pretty fast actually. And going onto a SSD it'd prolly be faster. And as long as the Key is being used on the same mobo/proc all is good right?

How do I keep it from trying to boot of the old main disk if I want to use that as a secondary drive? In the old days you had to mess with jumpers on the drive, but I don't think SATA drives have those... 

The system was also randomly shutting down, or trying too, but I figured that out, the cat keeps walking on the case, and stepping on the power button. I moved a tank over it. 

So it sounds like I'm handicapping my new system running the O/S on a normal drive. 

Hmm how do I get windows off the regular drive and on the SSD when I get one?  I'll be moving that up on the priority list now. 

Since my main game is still WOT, I could see getting the SSD before the video card since the 660 I’m running is handling WOT maxed out no problem.

What are WOWS system reqs?

That Swiftech H240 looks sweet, I think I'll go with that over the NZXT X61, I like how the Swiftech has a separate pump, instead of mounting it on the heat sink. 

So far Coretemp says I've hit 63c max on one core, and the others haven't gone above 57, and they all seem to run normally at 46-52c.  Does the Processor have some kind of heat protection built in, that shuts it down before cooking it?

The PSU seemed like the most bang for the buck coupled with good reviews, I liked it enough I bought too, and put one in the older system too. 

What’s with Noctua’s weird color, does anyone like it?

Yeah, I plan on a water cooler before I do any real overclocking, or had, but it seems fine right now. The wife will probably get me the water cooler for Christmas. I do wonder how well those hoses seal and hold up over time. I'd hate to have it leak. 

If I run into heat issues running a real game or when I get the new video card, I could get a better air based cooler, they don't cost that much. I'm sure even the really big ones would fit the case. 

If this would be good enough for mild overclocking, I can see going with this instead.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103189

The LEDs match the reds I’m using!

Sounds funny to me though it might clash with the LEDs.

 

I'm gonna have to post my build when I get it going although that's about a year off for some of it. I'm thinking mine's gonna be a white case with orange lights. My graphics card is going to be all contrasty in its black and blue and I think most of the components will be too.

I think the LEDs help make the joke.

So far even with the 660 in it, WOT runs 50 to 70 fps with everything on max, windowed at 1920x1058. The I7 3.4 system the video card came out of only got into that FPS range with a bunch of stuff turned down. 

The Asus motherboard with its software seems to be running the system slightly overclocked since its showing up as 4.3 when playing games. So far no temps higher than 51C, but I also can't find a good answer on a max temp. I betting 55 to 60 is bad. 

It’s fun to have a computer I can tinker around with. So far the only thing that bothers me is the Intel Rapid Share software turns off the non-system SATA drives and the software does not match the DOCs on how to get them back without rebooting. I don’t really have anything important on that drive. It was a desktop USB hard drive but the power connector broke off from its little circuit board. I cracked the case open and hooked up the drive inside just to get the stuff off of it.  

Reading God and the Facsists. Pretty interesting on how the Vatican went along with Mussolini, Hitler, and the gang. There is anti-church bias, but it doesn't take away from the book too much.

That does sound intersting, I'll have to add it to the list. 

Is it wrong of me to judge WT  with very my limited play experience, but a huge disdain for how they run their business and forums?

So, I'm thinking of decorating the case with old school car performance stickers, like, Hooker Headers, Crane Cams, Holley Carbs, etc. My wife thinks it doesn't make any sense, but I think it would make the computer like 10% faster, 15% if I can find some NOS stickers. 

What do you guys think?

So a little update, I picked up a pair of fans, a Rosewil, red led 120mm fan and a Corsair 140mm red led fan. I added them to the case, and now it glows even more red. 

I also stuck some 1/72 tanks on it cause I'm a dork. 

Thanks.

Building it was so fun, I really regret buying decent prebuilts and upgrading those for the past three or four PCs.

So here's the pics, this is part one done. Next, GTX980 of some type, an SSD, watercooling, and way more neon and fans!

You can see some of the cool features, like the start and reset buttons on the motherboard, and the error code LCD. Also note how the motherboard glows red from several places.

The manual for the mobo should tell you how to set the xmp profile (eXtreeeme Memory Profile!), which would sort that. You'd think someone would have figured out how to do that as standard by now

Yep, I found the section in the manual just before I read this post. I was reading through it at the laundromat. Halloween is a good night for laundry.

I found the section in the bios and fixed it.  Thanks for the help though.

Computers are fairly easy to build, even I managed it

True, but I'm a tad jaded after building more systems than I can remember after the last two decades. I remember the days when you had to configure your motherboard with jumpers and shit. Or installing Windows from 50 plus, 3 1/2 disks, and almost always getting a read error on one of them.

The new puter is all together, now i'm just reinstalling all the games and crap like Steam and Origin.

I do have some things I have to figure out. Like the mobo is detecting the ram as 1333mhz when its 2133mhz, but I think I just need to tell it what speed it is in the bios.